im serious kyle - prepared speeches never tell me anything because all they are doing is reading them - let's see how you speak with no speech, maybe just a bullet list of points - Allen Stern
would've loved it too, but mainstream media will not allow that to happen, and the system just propagates itself.... - Jeremy Toeman
Not necessarily, Michelle. The ability to make a coherant and meaningful speech without coaching and preparation indicates a complexity of thought, an ability to think ahead and to see connections between abstract or sometimes disparate ideas. Speaking well (not just clearly, but actually saying something meaningful) is exceptionally difficult. That's why everyone has speechwriters. - Stupid Blogger (aka Tina)
@Michelle.. what can we do to make sure they are "good"? - Kyle Lacy
alex - i love the reach floss stick too - i could never do the string thing - btw, can you remove the "robert's bro" from you name - build your own rep :) - Allen Stern
How about a FriendFeed button that makes gagging sounds? That would work for me. - Mark Dykeman
OK, so up until the end I was thinking, "What's more gross: the fact that she's licking everything and someone else will come behind her and touch it, or the fact that she's licking things that thousands of people have touched?" The last scene clinched the answer to that question... ack! - Sergio Cruz
My Google Reader usage has actually gone down directly related with my FriendFeed usage - JungleG
actually there's a part of me that thinks its going to crap because of ff - Allen Stern
The number of folks subscribed to my google reader shared items continues to climb consistently. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
I share and read less from GR, but I read much more content originated from GR share via FF links. - Jody C
Don't get it, Allen. I'm with Hutch - I think the value has gone up because of FriendFeed. People don't really subscribe to my shared items, but I can quickly share what I find interesting with the FF community while simultaneously knocking my feed items out. - Shawn Farner
I use reader more than ever. I even disconnected it from FF to reduce noise. People who read my shared feed are not on FF for the most part. If I want to share something on FF, I visit the site itself and use the bookmarklet - Geoff Longman
I agree with Geoff -- the FF posting from the bookmarklet (with picture and comment options) is much higher value and timely than a Google Reader share. - Brian Sullivan
Agree with Hutch and Shawn, more people are reading and commenting on my shared items and I'm enjoying reading a greater variety than before. It does get tedious if too many people share the same item though. - Sally Church
No Allen, that's why we have RSSmeme and Readburner - Shey
I'm sorry Shey - is that the Readburner that pimps the same set of blogs every day? (techcrunch, xkcd, readwriteweb) ? - Allen Stern
Can you tell the same thing for Twitter? Do you think the value of Twitter has gone up because of FriendFeed? - Kerem Ozkan
Although sharing stuff is somewhat akward, I prefer much more Netvibes than GR. Also the FF bookmarklet is quite cool for sharing. Otherwise just use delicious with automatic sharing. - Hayk Hakobyan
@Allen Stern (allenstern): I think sharing on FF is finished. At least for my friends, as far as it goes. We all use Google Reader, we avoid the echo chamber, and regardless of what aggregator it gets poured into, it ends up on FF anyway. FF's a cacophany that I occasionally surf to see what certain people, largely NOT my friends, are doing. FF gives me too much noise and no way to filter it, by and large, while GR gives me, well, just my friends. This is a real problem if you're a FriendFeed One True Wayer, but for the rest of us? We just use what works. - Alexander Williams via NoiseRiver
Alexander - have you tried the Friends lists as a way to manage only those users you want to see? - Hutch Carpenter
it's funny - no one actually asked me what I meant by my statement! - Allen Stern
+1 Hutch. I was sharing pre-FF, but I share more now. Of all the ways to share things, GReader shares are the easiest for me to use because I'm always in Google Reader - Duncan Riley
I perform my Google Reader sharing in harmony with FriendFeed, which is one of the reasons that I (usually) share no more than three items per hour. - Ontario Emperor
I just checked... and happy to report that our code is 100% pimp free at readburner - Thomas Connors
@Hutch Carpenter (bhc3): I have, but given the inheritance of friends-of-friends, I STILL get a hook into the cacophany. At root, FriendFeed is a mechanism for finding things other people have already seen. GR is a mechanism for discovering things others haven't seen YET. Which is why I read most stuff via RSS from blogs/etc on GR, and it feeds my FF. FF is a truly crappy discovery mechanism in a whole pile of ways, the inability to filter via keywords / tags, the very, very short page-length that doesn't unify on referred URLs, no threading, etc. UseNet was better ... and that's saying something. - Alexander Williams via NoiseRiver
Alexander - you can turn of FOF inside each Friends list. That's what I've done. - Hutch Carpenter
Ok - let me clarify my comment. 1. Thomas, as I've said from the beginning readburner is about pimping - I wish it wasn't that way - with the talent you have onboard it's hard for me to believe you cant fix it. 2. as for my initial comment, i am tired of bloggers sharing every single item on their blogs - first, if the blog has 4-5 writers, that's an instant 5 shares on ff and rb, etc. Second, it's just pollution. In FF I can see the same story from X blog about 25 times in the span of 3-4 minutes. And my comment is not targeted just to FF but to Google reader and the people and sites that feed off it. - Allen Stern
@Allen Stern (allenstern): Which, to be fair, wouldn't be that big a deal if FF unified on referred URLs so they only got one entry and Comments, etc, descended therefrom. The duplication's a killer. - Alexander Williams via NoiseRiver
ReadBurner pimps what the people share. It's our job to evangelize the technology, and then more content will come. Do you think that Techcrunch even cares that it's pimped on ReadBurner? Doubt it. We get nothing from it, we want to see quality content, and right now people associate quality with a big name. We are going to demolish that notion. - drew olanoff
I can't help but wonder if this is some sort of backlash against the inability to monetize one's Reader sharing...? - abacab
As Alexander says, the big issue with GR etc. on FF is the duplication. I've had apost in the works for about 6 weeks on what we share and how based on our intentions and the potential audience. Do we share things differently based on where we know the share will be seen? Do we/should we hold back if we have already seen a number of others share the same story or do we share anyway in order to boost that item up the ranks on sites like ReadBurner? It's an interesting dilemma. - Colin Walker via fftogo
Drew - people associate quality content with big names? I seriously doubt that. - Allen Stern
Colin - that's an interesting analytical path you're going down. Good stuff. - Hutch Carpenter