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Elliott Ng posted a link

With Canon, Loyalty Has its Privileges - Pogue’s Posts - Technology - New York Times Blog

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But then they raised their prices vs. what Pogue put in his post. - Elliott Ng via Bookmarklet

Elliott Ng commented on a blog post on Disqus

Re: UpTake And Nombray Are Hiring

Saturday at 10:18 pm - Link

"Thanks for the shout out Stowe! And personally happy to other edglings however we can during these potentially rough times." - Elliott Ng

Patrick Scoble posted a message

“Hello FriendFeed. My dad is trying to convince me FriendFeed is cool. So far I don't believe him.”

Friday at 8:30 pm - Link

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Another Scoble! Welcome, Patrick. :) What kind of things do you like? - Mona N.

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He's right...so is your Uncle Alex. So get your butt on here now! And while we're at it, where's Maryam? Glad to see YOU on here! You guys crack me up!! Alex's kitties are better than Robert's phones! - Susan Beebe

Attack of the Scobles! Welcome. - Mladen Srdić

So, we have Scoble and Scoble-lite... What shall we call this one? - Mark VandenBerg

FriendFeed is the BIZZZZ NIZZZZ - Sean McGee

Quick Patrick run away fast while you can .. It is time to learn your father isn't always righ... uh .. what's that knock at my door ... oh Hello Mr. Scob.. ouch - Steven Hodson

Hm, Mini Scoble is reserved for Milan. I am blank for this one. - Mladen Srdić

You are mistaken Mark, I am "fun Scoble" not "Scoble-lite" - Alex "Maverick" Scoble

Hi, Patrick. Some v. cool people here. I think you'll like it. :) - Ayşe E.

And it's about time you got your butt on here Patrick...you have been missing all the fun. - Alex "Maverick" Scoble

So this is Robert's son? - Monique via fftogo

Patrick shall be renamed as iScoble - imabonehead

Heh, a miniscoble :) You'll discover another dad here ;) - directeur via NoiseRiver

Welcome aboard mate. Hmm, any more Scobles and we can re-enact Star Wars with Scobles... - Mo "Killer Bee" Kargas

yes Patrick is Robert's son who just started HS this year (14 years old) - Susan Beebe

iScoble it is, then! - Mark VandenBerg

Oh and you need to add Maverick to your name immediately, or you aren't one of the cool kids. - Alex "Maverick" Scoble

He just started Highschool this year... - Alex "Maverick" Scoble

Patrick: your father is lying his ass off. There is no booze or hot slippery sex or any Czech supermodels who want to make you a man in here. Go back to your xBox. :D - Steven Perez

iScoble? I was hoping for Scoble 2.3 - Kaia is too young to die.

Patrick, don't listen to them. I'm one of the coolest and I don't have Maverick in my name. :) Welcome. - Jennifer Leggio

Forget uncle's or father's Friendfeed friends! Invite your own friends to FF and never subscribe to any other Scoble. : ) - Erhan Erdogan

Hi Patrick, welcome. Try not to be overwhelmed by all the cool people here on FF on a Friday evening...hope you have a great time :) - WorldofHiglet

Note to self: must differentiate between 3 Scoble FFers now. - Susan Beebe

Hey Patrick! Welcome, nice to see you here. (I'm the guy who sent Robert that live Daft Punk set at Vegoose 2007) - Vincent X

Susan, tell me about it. But, our plans for total domination of FriendFeed by Scobles are working pretty well! - Robert Scoble

Never trust The Man - Glen Campbell

You mean FriendFeed will eventually become ScobleFeed? - imabonehead

Steven: Patrick is into WoW and Playstation 3. I barely can get him on the Xbox anymore. - Robert Scoble

Don't trust anyone over 30. - todd

Patrick you do know we'll pay for pics, dirt, etc on the big guy? :) - Ed Shaz/NextInstinct

Robert - Yeah, the Scoble Empire is grown, so yes your plan is working alright!! Todd - ssshhhh!!! - Susan Beebe

imabonehead: yeah, see, I'm here for the tech stuff. My brother Alex is here for the cat photos. My son will keep the teenagers busy. Soon I'll have Maryam doing a mommyFriendFeed room and we'll be all set! :-) - Robert Scoble

Well thanks for the welcome guys! And yeah like my Dad said WoW is my favorite game. However I'm taking a break off of it for now. - Patrick Scoble

@Robert: And you'll have some spare time for jazz, not Eminem! - directeur via NoiseRiver

Your dad is right, friendfeed is cool, informative and entertaining! - David Ward

I'm owning my brother in friendfeed...he sure ain't owning me. Activity pwns Popularity! - Alex "Maverick" Scoble

WTF PS3? Get back on the real game system...ugh...You are so disowned! - Alex "Maverick" Scoble

Alex: keep thinking that quantity=pwnership. :-) - Robert Scoble

Scoble popularity contest in full swing! LOL - Susan Beebe

He's your dad. Of course you don't believe him. - Michael Krigsman

Susan: popularity is overrated. Having a conversation with someone smart is underrated. - Robert Scoble

In my first hour with it I seem to be liking it. It's like twitter but more exciting. Hehe. - Patrick Scoble

Welcome to FriendFeed! - Adam Jackson via twhirl

can we just rename FriendFeed into "ScobleFeed"? :) LOL. Or maybe I should rename myself Scoble. - Elliott Ng

if your dad says its COOL ,, its frickin cool ... - johnpiercy

Geoff Schultz posted a message

“I blamez teh Scoblez”

Thursday at 8:27 pm - Link

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I blamez teh Schultzes - Alex "Maverick" Scoble

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orly? - Geoff Schultz

I blame Canada! - Emotion Tad

I blame Akiva! - Mark Wilson

I blame the Canada cake! - Eric @ CS Techcast

I blame friendfeed for the state of this nation! Now git off mah lawn! - Alex "Maverick" Scoble

I blame the maverick! - Susan Beebe

I blame Vista... - J. Abdul-Qahhar

Paul Buchheit posted a link

Warren Buffett explains the credit crisis to Charlie Rose | mathoda.com

October 2 at 12:52 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link

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"We leveraged up and if you have a 20 percent fall in value of a $20 trillion asset, that’s $4 trillion. And when $4 trillion lands — losses land in the wrong part of this economy, it can gum up the whole place.” People should have known better but in some way’s it’s unavoidable with markets: “People should always know better. … I mean people — people don’t get — they don’t get smarter about things that get as basic as greed and you can’t stand to see your neighbor getting rich. You know you’re smarter than he is, and he’s doing these things, you know, and he’s getting rich, and your spouse is getting unhappy with you because you aren’t doing — pretty soon you start doing it. And so you get what I call the natural progression, the three I’s: the innovators, the imitators, and the idiots. And that’s what happens. Everybody just kind of goes along. And you look kind of silly if you disagree." - Paul Buchheit via Bookmarklet

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Can someone please engrave this on a plaque somewhere? Maybe we could have it etched into some tablets from the mountaintop and have churches predicated on these words. - Christopher Sacca

Right on! Yep, i am very "silly" ...not a jonesy type anymore.... we gave away much of our "cool stuff" and now have a mimimalist home ...MUCH BETTER and the best part, no stinking debt, except house and 1 car. The bank was all too ready to sock us deep into debt. We decided against that and are very happy with our decision to borrow only half what was offered (more realistic with cushion to $pare) - Susan Beebe

Unsure imitators and idiots don't simply continue on their merry way under bailout. - AJ Kohn

@AJ all the bailout does is buy time. We're merely delaying the inevitable, I think. If the imitators and the idiots keep doing what they're doing, we'll just be right back here again, except probably even worse off. - Victor Ganata

@Victor: Sadly, I agree. - AJ Kohn

Warren gets it, and he's a pretty straight shooter. These are the kind of heartland values politicians should be espousing. - £ogical €xtremes

@Susan - we also just bought a house (closing on Tuesday) for half what we were pre-approved for. - Robert Felty

Warren: "And all I can say is beware of geeks, you know, bearing formulas.” - carolh

Paul, I've posted the video of the full interview- http://nicefishfilms.com/blog/... Charlie Rose's site is being hammered with traffic today. - Nice Fish Films

A lot of people have criticized Paulson, here's what Buffett says: "I don’t think you can have a better secretary of the Treasury than Hank Paulson … he knows markets, he knows corporations’ work, he knows money, and he’s got the interests of the country at heart." - Sanjeev Singh

Buffett for President? - Jeff B

Here is my new motto, <geek>Live below your means, but get enough technology to have some fun.</geek> - jokrausdu

To have my blog post distributed on Friendfeed by The Paul Buchheit is pretty damn cool. Thanks :) - Ranjit Mathoda

Buffett (and Charlie Rose also) two of the smartest minds I've heard - Alex Hammer

Duncan Riley posted a message

““Biden Wins. But Palin was a lot better than most people would have expected””

Thursday at 7:34 pm - Link

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I think Palin won. And Palin is no idiot! - Colide81 (James)

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She did as expected - LPH™

@Colide81 she believes MAN and DINOSAURS walked the earth at the same time... what exactly does that say about her?? - Jeremy Toeman

I'm not sure anyone won. Biden was just less bad. I don't want either of them to end up in charge of my country. - Jaemi Kehoe

I believe the same thing though so lol tell me what does that say about me? - Colide81 (James)

Palin win? Tell me which question she gave a real answer to, and I will give you that win. - JodyC

Palin didn't win. No way in the world did she win - Duncan Riley

@Collide 81 Idiots usually think that their kind aren't idiots. Just saying. - Stephan Miller

both dumb as rocks - Gregory Lent

Biden showed better command of the issues and more experience; Palin didn't vomit, fart, or swear, and sounded so folksy I wanted to puke -- she wins for Joe Six-Pack American - William Harryman

james, she didn't answer a question and she talked around in circles with half-lies, full likes and outright WTFness, I'm glad that her sportscaster background came through, but if you say that you want to expand the power of the VP and don't even know that the VP is part of the executive branch, then yeah...you're a idiot and don't deserve the job. - Faboo Mama

William, I'll accept that in terms of the pointed folksy stuff and connecting with people by playing dumb, she did it well, but the key points didn't win it for McCain either, intellect and understanding won before, and I'm betting it wins here - Duncan Riley

Duncan - Exactly what I thought. - Jim McCusker

Yes. Beverly Hillbillies worked in Beverly Hills. Not in the White House. - Stephan Miller

She can't even finish a sentence. She stops halfway through and starts another one. - Vez ৩

Palin won. - Mona N.

Duncan: I hope you're correct - whenever I think Joe Six-Pack can figure that stuff out, I end up w/ a Bush in the White House -- "intellect and understanding" are taboo to the mainstream American, akin to the plague - William Harryman

Mona - So, by simply showing up and reading cue cards, you've decided that she won? Did you listen to her responses and compare them to Biden's? Seriously??? Trust me.. I am a total skeptic of both parties, but Biden did way better than I expected. Palin on the other hand was rehearsed and didn't sound like she was speaking with her own voice. - Jim McCusker

Palin had a better showing than anticipated, but that will only net her a few points. Biden did as well as expected so he wont lose points. - Geoff Schultz

palin didn't win. expectations for her were SO LOW all she had to do is not have another 'couric moment.' so if that's the standard, then she exceeded that requirement. but that's embarrassing. i actually want leaders to be smarter and more accomplished than 'regular' folks, and she's not...by a mile. she's not an idiot but if you think she won, them we must agree to disagree. - .LAG

Faboo Mama (and Zee) - I've gotta agree with you. Just because Palin didn't fall on her face like she did during her interviews with Katie Couric doesn't mean she won. There was close to zero substance to her answers (and I think that was by design). Biden on the other hand was able to go for McCain's jugular the entire debate while acting like a gentleman toward Palin. - Aaron Strout

I'm with Faboo Mama on this one. I texted my friend and said "Palin's not as much of a train wreck as I expected." Right after that she made her comment about expanding the power of the VP. I texted and said "spoke too soon." - Jennifer Leggio

It doesn't matter what the experts and those who are actually listening say. What matters is the general American population. The last election was the best example. Dubya was more relatable than Kerry. - Mona N.

My estimation as well Duncan - Aaron Krug

Mona, before the McCain debate I would have agreed with you 100%. But this time around there's a sizable shift that sees people looking for real leadership, real intellect, and real understanding on the issues, not just glib one liners. Remember, I called the last debate for McCain for the EXACT same reason you're giving it to Palin - Duncan Riley

@Duncan - Dare I summarize? Simply showing up for the debate is not good enough. 'nuff said. - Jim McCusker

Duncan: The official numbers are out and Biden won. THANK GOD! I was really nervous because Miss Congeniality has way more presence than Biden. Phew, America is NOT a lost cause LOL - Mona N.

tina fey could have learned those lines in her sleep - Gregory Lent

@Gregory - Stop. She definitely showed up tonight and perhaps gave a few (not many) responses off the top of her head. But she clearly stuck to her talking points and kept redirecting back to them at every opportunity. She appeared to be reading cue cards (we'll know for sure tomorrow when photo's from behind her come out). But this was not fodder for the next SNL skit - Jim McCusker

I think Mona, part of the problem is that you're looking at this through the prism of 2004. While Kerry had the record, he ran a crappy campaign by listening the DLC-types. Obama, has run a vastly smarter campaign. We are 4 years out and everything is worse. People are ready for change and most people who fell for platitudes in '00 and '04 are actually paying attention. Listening to words. - Faboo Mama

I'm personally tired of all of the partisan b.s. Let's all be real and try hard to objectively analyze tonights debate. Palin showed up... was not an idiot (as some speculated). But to me, she clearly articulated canned lines. Biden (perhaps more experienced) came across as genuine and appeared to be thoughtful in his responses. - Jim McCusker

I agree. She did very well. But we'll be seeing more of Tina Fey's Palin on SNL no matter how well she did tonight. You can't deny that. - ::Kristen::

Palin spoke well "also" and she can read well "also". - kbourke

Biden clearly wins. Palin fake and stumbled her way through. - Mike Reynolds

Actually Tina Fey does a better Palin than Palin, or is that a bit naughty? - Sally Church

The opions of Middle America as expressed in this thread by those on the left is why W won twice. - Robert Hafer

@Jim M I think that's a fair bi-partisan assessment - @mediaphyter, totally had the same reaction when Palin talked about "expanding the constitutional powers of VP." Looked at my wife after she said that and said, 'uh oh" ;) - Aaron Strout

John Worthington published photos on Flickr

Friday at 3:54 am - Link

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YAY!!! - Anna Haro

It's part of a blog series I'm writing. I'm digging through all my old toy boxes :) - John Worthington

Awesome. - Mona N.

Nice! - Anthony K. Valley © via bTT

Jennifer Leggio posted a message

“America is going to hell in a handbasket. Any Candian men want to get married? I love hockey. This qualifies me.”

Thursday at 8:04 pm - Link

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;-) - Jennifer Leggio

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hockey step-mom? - Daniel Monzelowsky

I miss having a Canadian girlfriend now... - heather ♥s fauns on mars.

I am already familiar with the job market in 3 provinces. Seriously. - Trish R

Trish, we can be neighbors. - Jennifer Leggio

You're welcome to come up and stay on the couch while you look...... - Abby Martin

Thank you Abby :) - Jennifer Leggio

room on the bus for one more? - Geoff Schultz

HAH!!!! - Rahsheen™

Jennifer .... go for the bucks :) - Charlie Anzman

Sure, Geoff. Come along! - Jennifer Leggio

I'll be up in June or July of next year. Need to save money and get a job up there to be a resident of Canada. - Christopher Welle

if I wasn't already married I'd be willing :) but then maybe you don't like cranky old farts? LOL - Steven Hodson

Jennifer... I only see the hockey on ESPN while waiting for the UEFA to start... which team should I be supporting? - John Worthington

Steven -- Haha. Silly :) - Jennifer Leggio

John - San Jose Sharks or Detroit Red Wings. Er WAIT. Um. THE HABS. (Ok, ignore that last team, just don't want to piss off any eastern Canadians right now) - Jennifer Leggio

Looks like a road trip to Canada. I''ll drive. - Trish R

Thank you... didn't want to default to the Disneyesque Ducks... - John Worthington

Canada FTW! - Jasmin Smith

I watched the last part of the Great Canadian Leadership debate tonight (yes there is an election in Canada - Oct 14) and they had all five leaders going at it with gloves off.. @ the end of the day though, what happens to the world will be determined by what the incoming US administration (whichever party) does with the coming financial crisis (I mean the real one that will hit 2010 when US credit fails due to derivative collapse, not the current minor, but real, crisis/debacle of financial constipation) - David HC Soul

So please, while we (mostly) love you all, please stay home and fight to get American affairs in order before you join us in paradise ;) - David HC Soul

Jasmin - Will you and Shey adopt me? Who cares if I am older than both of you. I don't eat much. I do have a cat, though. She can be your grandcat. :) - Jennifer Leggio

Haha. Check your Twitter. I just replied to a message on there without even seeing this first. And I even mentioned hockey! And for the record, I'm Canadian and I'm a Red Wings fan. - Mark Wilson

David - I am losing faith that we even can. :( - Jennifer Leggio

I am right here, Jenny :p - Metta (Kamath)

Mark - OH MY that is awesome. lol - Jennifer Leggio

One of the marks of a free nation is the freedom for folsk to leave it - by all means if your goign to be happier in Canada avail yourself of that freedom and do so. - Soulhuntre via twhirl

Soulhuntre - It was more in jest, but truthfully my last two boyfriends were bona fide Canadians. lol - Jennifer Leggio

Jennifer: Last two boyfriends Canadian? Usually we Canadian boys have a better winning percentage than this !!!! - David HC Soul

David - lol - Jennifer Leggio

I have Canadian citizenship, Jenn! Hopefully they'll accept gay marriages!!! - Mona N.

Hey, I can walk over to the bay, jet up to Lake Ontario and head over to CA in a few hours... woo hoo! - Susan Beebe

mona, marry me? i don't care about canadian citizenry, just marry me. - Cee Bee

Does French Canadian count? ;) - Brandon

I love being Canadian. - Chris Luckhardt

So not UK men? Tsch, missed out again. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Mark Wilson posted a link

In-N-Out 100x100

Thursday at 8:49 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link

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"Please take a CAREFUL look the picture on the right. There is a common misperception that the 100x100 has a hundred buns. No, that's not true. It's one set of buns and ONE HUNDRED meat patties and ONE HUNDRED pieces of sweaty-oily cheese in between the buns. Clearly, the worst part of this experience wasn't the meat..it was the sweaty cheese." - Mark Wilson via Bookmarklet

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Yummy. - Alex "Maverick" Scoble

Tony from Zappos was involved. - Vincent X

Oh. Just oh. Actually, also, no. ick. - ♥ pea ♥..!..♥..!..♥

holy moly! that's a monster burger! I love that place, too.. but not that much! - Susan Beebe

This answers the question my friends and I always asked in college: what would a 100x100 look like. - Kevin Bondelli

I watched someone eat a 4X4 once and my heart skipped a beat. - Pete Delucchi

Oh I've done the 4x4 on a dare before. It hurt. - Kevin Bondelli

So Kevin, what you're saying is that the 100x100 looks like a whole lot of awesome, right? Heart exploding awesome? - Mark Wilson

Mark, that is exactly what I'm saying. - Kevin Bondelli

Anything involving meat and melty cheese gets the a-ok in my world. Bring it on. - ::Kristen::

*barf!* - Susan Beebe

I ain't mad at that. +100x100 - Eric @ CS Techcast

we got one of these for a party once. it was interesting because we were all given extra buns. - Faboo Mama

too. much. and then we wonder why the rest of the world hates americans...we're greedy and gluttonous. lolz - .LAG

I could eat that for a month! - Morton Fox

ew ew ew. burgers are good but i can't do fast food microwave burgers. =\ - Krista K

God, seeing that makes me so hungry. Although I would have demanded that there be a bun between each slice, and must be able to stand upright with the aid of a wooden skewer. Thems the rules ;¬D - CannonGod

I'd hate to eat that and look like some crazy-assed chedder cheese bukkake poster boy, sayin'. - Eric Rice

I think I'm going to be sick. - Denton Gentry

why are you all going to be sick? this is for a party, not one person. only think i'm mad about is now i want INO and the one near me sucks. - Faboo Mama

In n Out is awesome! - David Ward

Is INO any good? We don't have them up here in Canada. Is it comparable to McD's or BK? - Mark Wilson

Never had in-n-out, we only have the basics round here. McDonald's, BK, etc.. You guys are lucky. I can't even get a Checkers out this way. - Rahsheen™

In N Out is rough around the edges, and is thus different from McDonalds, Burger King, or Tim Hortons. In my case, it was an acquired taste that took several years to develop. - Ontario Emperor via fftogo

I love In-n-Out. But not this much. :) - Daynah

According to the LA Times, they no longer will make anything larger than 4x4 - Victor Ryden

In-n-out is good stuff. For one thing, the sexual innuendo says a ton. For another, the fries are always freshly cut from real potatoes, right on site. Finally, the burgers are actually cooked, on a grill, old-fashioned diner-style, which means a long wait whether you go inside or attempt the diabolically long drive-thru. Oh, and they stay open late too, so all the insomniac kids flock to this place at night, which, if you're a kid, is probably a good thing. - Pete Delucchi

Victor, the LA Times is a liberal...oh who cares. I just wanted a burger! - Mark Wilson

I like In-N-Out, but thats just wrong. - Christopher Welle

why is that wrong? It's for a party or meeting just like if you were to get a 6 foot sub! - David Ward

David, this one didn't have buns in between each of the patties. It was just one long grease fest of meat & cheese. If it had buns in between, it would be comparable to a 6 foot sub or something. This thing is just an abomination. - Mark Wilson

Yeahhhhhhhh + SUPERSIZE MY FRIES!! Pass da Heinz Ketchy Please!! ;)) - Billy Warhol

Respect. I once ate 10 McDonalds hamburgers for a bet and almost threw up. I can't ordering imagine 10x that. - Jess Lee

Jeremy Toeman posted a message

“Why on Earth would anyone want their leaders to seem like "regular Americans"? I want my employers, employees, friends, elected officials, and anyone else around me to IMPRESS THE HECK out of me. I want to be intellectually challenged. I want to learn. I *never* want "Team C+" in charge.”

Thursday at 10:16 pm - Link

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I would expect the leaders of our country to absolutely WOW me simply by their presence. I can see normal people anywhere, but that is one arena where I think people should seem larger than life. The other would be in movies. - Rahsheen™

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Well, common sense says that a regular American can relate to the problems of other regular Americans, and thus be better equipped to decide how to address their concerns. There's nothing that says a regular American can't also be intelligent, except your pre-conceived notions of what that word means. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

@Mark the point is, there's NO SUCH THING as a "regular American". if there were, this wouldn't be such a divisive race... - Jeremy Toeman

I would. I remember how embarrassed I was when George HW Bush showed such a fascination with a checkout scanner in a grocery story. The fact that he was blissfully unaware of technology that had been in use for a decade or more showed just what an ivory tower he lived in. - Glen Campbell

Because again, our country is uncertain. This time, about economics. People want leaders who understand them. (us?) - Mona N.

culture of mediocrity imo. it's "elitist" to sound smart or be well-informed. people seem to get offended by that - Cee Bee

Listen to yourselves: you're equating "regular American" with "unimpressive, not intellectually challenging" (Jeremy) or "mediocre, not smart, uninformed" (Cee Bee). Your pretentiousness astounds me. - Glen Campbell

Glen - i never claimed i was better than average/regular. that's basically my entire point. if i draw a bell curve and ask myself "who should lead?" i would not choose from the middle. - Jeremy Toeman

...and my belief is that someone who is intellectually challenging or well-informed can still "seem like a regular American." It doesn't matter to me how smart or charismatic someone is if they're out of touch with the rest of us. The alternative sounds too much like, "let them eat cake." - Glen Campbell

I don't get it either... Palin had just finished a spiel about how she was a regular person just like all of us and in the next sentence talks about how America is set as an example of "Exceptionalism" to the rest of the world. How can you be regular and exceptional at the same time? I'd much rather have exceptional governing me than regular. That doesn't mean exceptional can't have come from a regular background and identify with me, but I want someone smarter than me as my leader. - Lindsay Donaghe

"The one thing that unites all human beings, regardless of age, gender, religion, economic status, or ethnic background, is that, deep down inside, we all believe that we are above-average drivers." (Dave Barry) - Glen Campbell

It's cause everyone picked on the smart kids at school and don't want to now admit it to themselves that they were wrong to do it. - John Worthington

@Lindsay: It's not logically difficult to scan. Our normal is considered exceptional to much of the world. Even in the midst of economic crisis, our nation's poor, well, to quote my old tagline, have big screen TVs. Not so for much of the world. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

Agree with John, we are the bully-jock, clique-cheerleader nation. - Lindsay Donaghe

Mark... we really don't. We judge you on your actions, not your posessions. - John Worthington

It's called an example, John. You want an actions-based example? Regular plain old Americans are the guys everyone else in the world calls when a Tsunami, earthquake or genocide happens. We generally come in and fix it, pay for it, and leave. I was trying to make a point about how the statement wasn't illogical. I've done it again. Any other questions? - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

call it pretentiousness if you'd like, but the fraudulent populism being espoused by some of the candidates is nothing but a ploy to pander to a culture of people who are consistently led to vote against their own interests because they're fooled into thinking they can have a beer with a candidate. - Cee Bee

when you catapult a person void of intellectual training relevant to the challenges and responsibilities that await him/her in a position of such high responsibility it gives nothing, but the impression that there's a mad love of mediocrity in this country, especially when it comes to politics. people get hung up on the ordinary. i want my president to be more than that - Cee Bee

Sorry Mark, I never knew being generous and charitable was something exclusive to the US. - John Worthington

Being simply generous and charitable is not the same thing as what I said, and you know it if you're honest with yourself. Can you be honest with yourself, or do your deeply held beliefs prevent you from following the logic of what I said? - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

Jesus, Mark, how jingoistic do you have to be? Sure, the US is a great country, but it's not some kind of universally benevolent force. Wasn't just Americans helping out with the tsunami. And did you 'fix' Iraq? - Alexander Carlill

It's why Bush won in 2000, also. More people wanted to "have a beer with him." They actually liked the fact that he was clueless and incurious. Look how awesome that worked out, Joe Six Pack!! We get the government we deserve. - Anthony Citrano

Anthony: I love you. - Mona N.

No, you said "Our normal is considered exceptional to much of the world". And I'm saying your 'normal' isn't really that better than anyone else. The ability to be called apon to be generous/kind/loving/peaceful/smart is not just a US trait and indeed people with far less give far more in a range of fields. In regards to your presidential candidate, please vote for the best and the brightest. You don't owe it to us, you owe it to yourselfs. They don't make you captain cause you can cook and scrub the deck.. - John Worthington

Some of it, stems from the belief that people who think of them selves as part of "Team A+" look down their nose at you... Because they do. - J. Abdul-Qahhar

Now that is pirate logic Mark... - John Worthington

No John, again, you're parsing words. I was pointing out the logic of the statement. And @Alexander, it isn't fanatically patriotic to be logical. Try reading the context before you toss out accusations. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

Mark, can you describe which Americans are not "regular plain old" Americans? (Thanks.) - Ayşe E.

@Ayse: I tried three times. The FriendFeed text box doesn't contain enough character spaces to answer that question (which would no doubt be misinterpreted about twenty ways by others on this thread). - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

Mark, I have no issue with your explanation, trust me I get it. I just took exception (possibly wrongly) to the implication that somehow my 'normal' is any less valid or worthy than your 'normal' - John Worthington

agreed. - Patricia

Apparently Mark's version of exceptional is possession of a big screen TV. And coming and fixing things and paying for them! You know, like countries in the middle east and stuff. *cue national anthem* .. wow, and we wonder why we're in the shit we're in. - Anthony Citrano

@Mona - love you too, it may not be too late for that third party run. ;) - Anthony Citrano

Just on a side note... I gotta change my Avatar... How the hell am I suppose to be taken seriously when it's me in a pirate hat... *sigh* :) - John Worthington

Mark, to single out American global aid as somehow unique is hardly 'logical'. And just so you know, when genocide occurs, they don't call in the US. They call in the UN. - Alexander Carlill

Who funds the UN, Alexander? Who are most of the peacekeepers, Alexander? How is the size and scope of American global aid not unique, Alexander? Everything you just said either flawed or false. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

Agreed! - Jeff P. Henderson

Anthony: do you even understand what exceptional means? Something that is not normal or is above average in some way. This whole stupid debate we're having on this feed is all about how something can be normal for America, but exceptional compared to the rest of the world. It's possible, and I showed two possible examples. That's it. That's all that was needed to prove my point. You guys may not like them, but they're true. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

Mark: Do you even understand that every comment you make on FriendFeed is basically the same? - Anthony Citrano

The whole premise posed at the beginning of this discussion is an example of class warfare. Specifically, the desire of wanna-be elitists for a *ruling class*, and for that ruling class to be superior in every way over others. How Arrogant. - Art Lindsey III

@Anthony: that's because all you and your friends all say the same things. when I come through and point out the same fallacies, lies and incorrect statements all the time, I'm sure it sounds like I'm repeating myself. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

How elitist to want someone to be qualified for a job. - Anthony Citrano

Yep, Mark, that must be it. Lack of illumination on our part. - Anthony Citrano

Sarah Palin is the most qualified on both tickets. Like it or not, it's true. I'll take a Governor over a Senator any day. - Art Lindsey III

I knew we'd get a punch line in here eventually. Thanks, Art. We can close this one up now. - Anthony Citrano

Try again. A senator has always been considered to be in a higher position than a governor. (Didn't you learn that in high school? Do they still teach government in high school?) Why do you think there's talk of Arnold Whatshisname running for the Senate? Besides, the population of Alaska is about the same as Fort Worth or Memphis. (Those cities aren't even in the top 10!) - Oliver Ortega Chua

@anthony: hey, it must be. that or a lack of will or ability to go and, you know, check facts and or scan for logic. or definitions of words. I don't make up the dictionary. I just read it. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

School? Okay, I will now take you to it. What is key is EXECUTIVE experience. Governors are akin to presidents. They They actually run things. They manage people and assets (Billions of dollars, even in ALASKA) and make decisions, and they go to work every day. Senators do not. All they do is vote on bills, when they decide to show up. Senators are out of touch with The American people. Why do you think we havent elected a senator in almost 50 years? Arnold Schwarzenegger in the Senate? Really? If he is, it - Art Lindsey III

is only because he is constitutionally prohibited from running for the Presidency. Before you belittle my schooling, you should look at your history, and learn how American government actually functions. - Art Lindsey III

"I'll take a Governor over a Senator any day"... Like say Governor G W Bush of Texas... yeah, no thanks. - John Worthington

Going back to the original point and maybe slightly off it but we're having a similar issue with our political leaders. David Cameron has been criticised because he is a ex-public school boy and that he is not like the average joe in the UK. But it's not important, it's important that he has people underneath him that are from different backgrounds and have different experiences but for the leader (one individual) to be an everyman is impossible and is stupid for people to want that! - Kol Tregaskes

In regards to employers, well most of my boss's have turned into friends. I still respect them as a boss but if I can't get on with them, i.e. are friendly and approachable them I'm not really interested in working for/with them. So I guess it depends on the employee and employer. - Kol Tregaskes

@Mark, I'm genuinely curious how we distinguish between (groups of) Americans. Could you give me just a brief sketch (I won't hold you to its not being exhaustive) or take two text boxes if you need? Thanks. - Ayşe E.

Yes, we want the A Team. So let's get Mr. T in there. - Mike Reynolds

love this sentiment! me too... I'm looking for a leader who has **intellectual curiosity** about things that are complicated and different (people, places, beliefs, ideas, science/technology innovations, etc.) and **genuine passion** for helping all Americans to become safer, smarter and happier (which includes wealthier and healthier). FWIW "safer" to me does not include banning personal ownership of guns or going into other countries to "clean things up and spread democracy, capitalism and/or religion." - Jon Price

@Art I'm not going to go back and forth with you because, obviously, I'm not going to change your mind and vice versa. (If you look, that's how I usually conduct myself online. My two cents and I'm done.) Anyway, I just want to clarify that I never said that Gov. Schwarzenegger was in the Senate; only that there's been talk of him running after his term limit is hit. Also, I want to apologize if I offended you. My comment was more of a commentary on the state of education in America since civics is no longe - Oliver Ortega Chua

r taught in much of the US. I'm sorry. I didn't mean it to be an attack on you. If you check my record, I try to refrain from "belittling" people, politicians/celebrities excepted. :) - Oliver Ortega Chua

Benjamin Golub posted a message

“I can't side with a ticket that can't pronounce the word nuclear.”

Thursday at 7:00 pm - Link

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or Iraq for that matter - Deepak

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Agree with both of you - Sally Church

Or says "y'all" - Ricardo Vidal

terrists - Paulo Nuin

or "Do'gawn it!" - Ricardo Vidal

Half the nation can't pronounce the word nuclear - go live in the south some time. - Jesse Stay

Hey - no hating on folks that say "y'all!" :( - Emotion Tad

That word had often been mangled. I'll never forget President Carter doing it, too. - John McCrea

Ha, ha... boy, that was pretty annoying wasn't it?!! dang! - Susan Beebe

"I'll work on it with ya" - Metta (Kamath)

New-clear...it's pretty simple...Except it's not that simple...cuz new-que-lear is also now accepted...it works for Homer Simpson...good enough for me :) - Alex "Maverick" Scoble

Palin sounds just like Bush. - Mike Reynolds

Mike, Palin also sounds like Carter - careful about that - Jesse Stay via twhirl

Well, she can keep it up as that influenced another of my undecided moderate buddies - it was just too much for him :-) - Sally Church

let me get back to ya on that! - Susan Beebe

Sally, wow, I'm sorry for the state of this nation if the moderates (like myself) are voting simply on someone's accent - Jesse Stay via twhirl

I can't side with a ticket whose supporters, lacking the ability to converse with facts and logic, rely upon ad hominem attacks and petty name-calling. - Glen Campbell

+1 Glen, but that goes for both sides this election unfortunately - Jesse Stay via twhirl

and every other election in the US and pretty much everywhere in the world - Deepak

Obama and Biden pronounce "nuclear" correctly. - Mike Reynolds

"Nookyooler!" Ugh. It makes my blood boil. - Jonathan

Ruth Ferguson posted a message

“what does FTW mean?”

Thursday at 8:25 pm - Link

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for the win, ruth! - Mona N.

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old gamer lingo " for the win" i have no idea how the rest of the interent learned it. - Faboo Mama

For The Win or Fuck The World to others - Outsanity

More gamers I guess.. :) - Shawn Farner

I posted this same question a few weeks back. - Nathan Rein

thanks gang! - Ruth Ferguson

FTW means "use Google to find out what terms mean that you don't know." - Robert Scoble

Free The Willie... something to do with whales I think... - John Worthington

Robert- That doesn't always work. I googled "OH" because I didn't know what it meant and didn't want to look stupid asking. Think I found it? Sometimes asking the community is the best solution. Most of us are happy to help out :) - Matt Musgrave

FTW means "don't tell Scoble, but..." - Nathan Rein

lol Nathan ;) - mel maverick mcb

i had to explain FTW to a friend the other day. she came up with an example to use in the classroom: "it's pluperfect subjunctive conditional, FTW". i love the fact that i have smart friends. - ♥ pea ♥..!..♥..!..♥

FTW FTW! - Alex "Maverick" Scoble

Pluperfect subjunctive conditional, FTW! I love that! - Alex "Maverick" Scoble

"For The Win" used in the context of "Bacon FTW" or "Cute gals who love to play video games are made of win (or just plain FTW)" - Glenn Batuyong

Tenses. Such things were NOT taug