Here's a deck I published with Shiv Singh on the potential of Facebook Connect. Let me know what you think of it. - Jesse Pickard
I saw it via factoryjoe; I was writing a short post about fb connect today and came up with the same conclusions (the risks). In particular: what if FB blocks or shuts down your account, what if you used connect to sign up with other services? bye bye everything? I dont really like a closed approach to this stuff: the identity is mine, not fb's. - Andre
I have a question. If I add facebook connect to my site, will facebook share informacion with me about users that use that longin or comments? - matiasjajaja
Imagine the potential if it would use open standards and you wouldn't have that lock-in ;-) Then it would be HUGE! Do you want to be part of the FB TOS when you use FB connect? do you want even FB to dictate how you display this button? - Christian Scholz
As more and more talk about facebook connect comes up it's time to think about ways to make OpenID more popular. IMHO the main thing to do is not to hide it behind different names. - Christian Scholz
Anything that accepts OpenID should just accept a simple URL, other buttons and logos create clutter. What confuses me is why sites cannot detect OpenID automatically. - Mike Chelen
Mike, intersting idea. If browsers start building in OpenID support, they could send an http header that would make such detection possible. For now the best a site can do is set a cookie to remember that the user used OpenID before. - Bruce Lewis
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Actually, look at facebook connect. It's so easy because you don't have to enter a URL. The button knows it's URL already. This definitely could be something browsers can hook into (is that how the Flock extension works? I haven't tried it yet). If there is widespread support and you browsers can detect these login fields and put your openid in there (maybe even with a logo so you know via which provider you log into) then it might be as easy as FB connect. - Christian Scholz
Christian, what do you think of Clickpass and its one-click OpenID login? - Bruce Lewis
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Just commented on your blog Christian http://tinyurl.com/6ohzsq to sum it up for friendfeed: I don't like the brand name itself. It is just not as descriptive as "Facebook Connect" is. Connect with Facebook - that is what people are understanding. OpenID ? "What ID? Why is it "open" - is that safe? I mean it has to do with my Password - shouldn't it be closed?" Thinks like that I hear really often, when I talk to non-geeks about OpenID! - Sebastian Küpers
Mike Chelen, a Firefox add-on http://Sxipper.com almost does that for you know. It can also remember your OpenID identities and represent them for login in the same way Autofill/Firefox can now represent your identity and password. - John Lam
Bruce, I never looked at clickpass to be honest but will do so. I wonder though if yet another service is the solution ;-) Maybe transitionally but then again it might only be for geeks as it adds more explanation of what clickpass is again. - Christian Scholz
I like most things Google, but don´t care much for their UI work. - Thomas Bøhm
I'm still waiting for Chrome on my Mac. I have a feeling I'll be waiting for a long time if the vaporware GoogleTalk for Mac is any indicator of Google's priorities. - Mike English
I think they are mostly taking ideas from the mac and moving it into the windows platform under their own name. iPhoto - Picasa, Adium - Gtalk client, Safari/Webkit - Chrome, and so forth. They know mac users already have just as good apps. - Thomas Bøhm
I thought Google was going to turn into another AOL when Chrome was released & that eventually they would integrate all their stuff into it. It was quite obvious they didn't do it out of concern for the users of the internet, or they would have made the browser usable to the group of people that need a light weight, fast, secure browser the most (those running older OS's that have been abandoned by Microsoft, Apple, etc.) Google showed they didn't care when Chrome wouldn't install on anything older than XP. - April Russo
Thomas: +1 on the -1 for Google UI work. I can't put my finger on why, but much (or most) of their UIs drive me just a little batty. - Ken Sheppardson
April: I'd hope that rather than try to back-port Chrome to an older, unsupported OS (I believe MS ended support for 95/NT at the end of 2002, didn't they?) they'd allocate their resources to Mac and Linux support and on opening it up for extensions. Looks like that's what they're doing, so a thumbs up from me on that. As far as turning into another AOL, I think their have higher aspirations than that: http://www.thinkgos.com/ - Ken Sheppardson
Extensions are what would make the difference between Chrome being a dedicated Google App interface(which is how I use it now) and a full-fledged browser. @Thomas Jabber clients have been around for a while and Webkit came from KDE, so I don't think that's a supportable assertion. - Mr. Gunn
I've been pleasantly surprised with Chrome by the lack of features that I actually use. I've been impressed with the speed at which it launches and the minimal ui. Don't get me wrong I could really go for a picnik extensions for screen captures (bookmarklets don't work for receipt screen shots), and better greasemonkey support. - Thomas Hunsaker
@mrgunn Yeah, I was a bit vague, hoped nobody would notice;) But my point is still buried in there somewhere. Of course os x is built upon technology that didn´t originate on the mac, but I still think UX and UI ideas from the mac are being copied over to windows by Google while they also bring much of the same technology being used on the mac (as well as on the original platforms for the technology). I don´t know, they say they love macs, and are mostly targeting windows. - Thomas Bøhm
Apple does have good UI ideas, I just wish they wouldn't always screw it up by trying to control what people can do so tightly. You know what I mean? itunes would be a great media player if it'd just stop there, but it doesn't. It also wants to organize everything for you, and control where you get media files, and what you do with them. - Mr. Gunn
@mrgunn I actually like simple UIs with the option to use Applescript and the terminal for power users. And I think iTunes was compromised because they needed all that functionality in one app when they targeted windows as well. It´s actually very un-mac-like to not have specialized small apps that do one thing very well. We already had iSync, but to install iSync as well as iTunes and other apps on windows would end up not looking simple to the average iphone-buying windows user. Shame but true. - Thomas Bøhm
I am pretty sure iTunes does not control anything. I can buy/rip mp3s all day long, you can put them where you want and iTunes will leave them there. iTunes STORE, now there you have some silly controls/DRM but you can use iTunes all day long and never buy a thing from ITMS. - Bill Pennington
Mr. Gunn, in iTunes, Edit --> Preferences --> Advanced tab --> Uncheck "Keep iTunes Music folder organized," uncheck "Copy files to iTunes Music folder when adding to library." Click OK to end the harsh tyranny of having a computer alphabetize things for you ;-) - Karim
I like Chrome. If it had extensions and allowed me to seamlessly utilize less MS products I would likely use it much more frequently. For the time being I'll continue using ff 90% + of the time. - Doug Vanisky
Chrome rocks, and these extensions will make it much more attractive to users and developers alike. - Tim Ake
Wow at Jason's view of work: "For me and my team, this is a non-issue, since we only hire folks who are looking to absolutely kill it, love what they do and don't consider it a job." - Daniel J. Pritchett
Doesn't Jason run a value-added wiki competitor powered by the sweat of interns? It's cool if that model works for him but I don't know if a country should collectively give up 50% of their days off rather than fixing systemic issues like horrific inefficiency. - Daniel J. Pritchett
In JasonWorld, it appears family time is a luxury, not a requirement. - Hutch Carpenter
Michael Pollan (In Defense of Food) was on Bill Moyers last week discussing this very topic. Very insightful & supports Stowe's argument http://ur1.ca/vzx - Mark Schulz
"don't consider it a job". yes, well but it is a job and that is the whole point. - Sofia Gkiousou
and by the way looking for smn who "does not consider it a job" is usually the sign of a company that pays pittance and expects blood in my experience. - Sofia Gkiousou
There is something fundamentally wrong with Jason's proposal and this not family life and personal time elimination: a 20% increase in production that will generate 0% additional income for those contributing the extra time, will mean 0 jobs creation for a lot of years. Is this an exit from the crisis? - Nikos Anagnostou
Re: Moyers interview of Pollan, who quotes Wendell Berry on 'outsourcing our lives' http://bit.ly/109yO - Stowe Boyd
... really good at scraping up bacon and LOLCAT images. ;-) - Chris Baskind
I have a new slogan. FriendFeed, free crowdsourcing at its finest! - Mark Krynsky
Increasing the number of people doesn't necessarily make the selection of material better. Plus, you also end up with a lot of duplication. - Morton Fox
Morton: heh, the repetition tells me it's important! :-) - Robert Scoble
Morton, with the new grouping feature, the duplication just bubbles the story up again. This promotes the "importance" angle while complimenting the "freshness". - Rob Diana
