What a lovely way of putting it! Congratulations. It's the beginning of a great adventure...or at least that what Lou Reed said, and he has three heads. - david beckwith

Lindsey in Love

“The elliptical almost beat me today. I had to stop several times but I pushed through all 30 mins and still managed to run out 2 miles. Take that!”

Monday at 12:23 pm - Link

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I am having my elliptical show down this evening after 2 weeks of binging on drink and food. I have visions of it trembling voilently for a minute and falling apart when I jump on it. - FatOracle (Kamath)

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w00t, w00t! - Still Just Katie

If I can do it on only two hours of sleep then so can you ;) Show that hag who wears the pants! - Lindsey in Love

Congrats! Mine starts tomorrow and my legs and arse are already feeling sore just thinking about the 2 week vacation they've had. - Trish R

Good job!! That's more than I've done in a year and I work at a fitness club. Hahaha - *Tiffany Diamond*

Kenton

“Anyone use a graphics tablet for photo editing work? If so, what do you use and would you recommend it?”

Monday at 11:55 am - Link

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*stalks thread hoping for an answer I can afford!* - Stupid Blogger (aka Tina)

I just bought my daughter a Wacom Bamboo tablet. She'll use it for drawing, and I'll probably do a little bit of photo editing with it. - ha3rvey

Ha, ha @Tina that's sort of where I am too. The Bamboo looks good and inexpensive. If it works for photos it would be a great way to get started. - Kenton

wil wheaton - Twitter

“@matthewdickey Birth of the Cool, Miles And Coltrane, Kind of Blue, and Dig. Kind of Blue was my intro to jazz, and Dig is just sublime.”

Monday at 11:43 am - Link

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“First day of new job!!”

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Good luck and have fun! - MLx

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So exciting! Kick ass & have fun! - joshua m. neff

good luck good luck have fun! - Jenica

Yahoo! - martha ☮

woo! and welcome to the triangle! - Chad Haefele via twhirl

good luck! - βℜ∀ñÐi

hope it's a great one! - Laura Norvig

Yay! Hope it's going well! - laura x

integrate well - JлsonTFleming

Go kick butt, girl! - Laura B. is for birthday!

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“I love the silly things my kids say. 8-year-old grandaughter comes to dinner and sees me putting the garlic toast in the oven and says, "MoMo, I just want to remind you that I'm black toast intolerant". Awesome.”

Sunday at 4:29 pm - Link

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haha... that is awesome. - Nathan Chase

Jemm

“I just got a DM from http://friendfeed.com/orionsta... 's Twitter account that leads to a phishing site (at least Chrome claimed it to be one). Maybe his Twitter account (http://twitter.com/orionstarr) has been hacked?”

Sunday at 12:57 pm - Link

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And another DM just came... I hope he sees this soon. - Jemm

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I had one, and then I received a DM stating "fixed it.. hehe here is that blog i wanted to show you http://twitterblogs.access-log...", about 5-10 minutes after Twittering about it. - Tyson Key

Yep, I got exactly same ones. The last one is phishing, too. - Jemm

I just got it from orionstarr as well. - Mark Wilson

I just got one as well and firefox blocked it. I figured it was fake but I clicked the link anyways. The DM just didn't make any sense to be real. - mathew, keynote not lame

These have been going around since Saturday evening if not before. - Ontario Emperor

I wish registrars would yank these domains. acces-logins is still, unsurprisingly, alive. - Adam Lasnik

ωαřмaiden

“Cable guy came. I went with basic and standard - I havent had this many channels in a decade. OMG! CNN! ESPN! History channel! Food network! VH1! USA! TNT! SciFi!”

Sunday at 10:03 am - Link

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BBC? Animal Planet? - martha ☮

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Turner Classic Movies? - joshua m. neff

No BBC. Yes to animal planet and Turner classic movies! - ωαřмaiden

I'm jealous! - joshua m. neff

Food Network = TIME SUCK!!! I get sucked into Ace of Cakes and Good Eats and and and....I bumped up to get BBC but I find I never watch it...going back down in a month or so - Abigail (Hε₫§εhσ§ ĺﺃβ)

the only thing that i miss about not having cable, is not having food network...they don't stream their shows which is very disappointing - Sir Shuping

VH1 is non-stop trashy goodness! - Free Tibet

It's been really hard on my hubby not having TCM for the last few years. Luckily he, umm, procured many movies from when we did have it. When we finally can afford to get cable again it will be pretty exciting. Need to do it before Robert Osborne retires. Love the Robert. - Laura Norvig

Im excited about espn. Withou tit, the past few football seasons have sucked. - ωαřмaiden

We are going the opposite direction: trying out using our Mac Mini as a multimedia machine so we can cancel cable. I'll report back. - Qui-Gon Binks Lawson

never had cable, but I dream of one day having a TV with BBC again. And Food Network of which I've only had tantalising glimpses. mmm. - Fiona Bradley

ha3rvey - delicious

gastropoda/stories » Blog Archive » Good to the bone: short ribs

January 2 at 5:50 pm - gastropoda.com - Link

Braised Short Ribs with Chinese Flavors - ha3rvey

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“Nobody cares how much you know, until they know how much you care - Theodore Roosevelt”

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A great song indeed! Paul simon is awesome. - steve

that's weird i just downloaded this song :) - shedali

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Robert Scoble

“To properly back up you need three copies. What is your workflow? What services work best for you? Discuss here:”

January 2 at 12:07 pm - Link

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To properly back up you need three copies. One on your local drive in case something gets corrupted. One on an external hard drive or other media in case your hard drive dies. One on an external hard drive or other media or storage service that you store someplace else in case your house or office burns down. - Robert Scoble

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Dropbox. Three separate laptops and their Web service. - Stephen Pierzchala

Forget the external hdd in some other location, and just back up to that webspace you have that you never use, or maybe cloud-based backup. - Shivanand Velmurugan

For a local backup I run Time Machine on my iMac to an external drive. I also have a remote backup in the cloud using Backblaze. In addition I use DotMac and Mesh for sharing files among different computers. - Jonathon

Here's mine: The original copy, one stored using Time Machine, one copy on a network storage device (ReadyNAS) using RAID and one copy at an off-site backup location. Works well and I've got my backup scripts running constantly. EDIT: I also use Dropbox for my documents. - Eric D. Brown

#1 hard drive, #2 another hard drive, #3 old stuff goes to DVD - barl0w

Carbonite for local machines. - todd

This looks like a good start for rsync to cloud. http://bit.ly/MBB0 - Shivanand Velmurugan

Around midnight I received a weird 'file access error', so I spent the first 90 minutes of 2009 running fsck on my MacBook Pro, then went to bed. First task on waking up? Time Machine (whole system) plus Mozy (home directory). Sadly, using the network support to back up with Time Machine to a disk on my Airport Extreme failed horribly when I tried it, so I'm down to Mozy (over the Internet) and Time Machine to a directly-connected USB drive. - James

Simple enough - internal drives backup nightly to external drives. The backup copy of my system drive is boot-able. I need to add the off-site factor to this setup. SuperDuper! is my backup software. - Tom Harrison

I agree the dropbox solution works well for me except for photos and video. In that case I have main HD, backup HD an HD I try to keep off site. If all else fails I have high res jpegs on flickr. - gfurry

computer, extra hard drive i keep in fire safe at home, WD Passport i keep with me most of the time. I use a self written program to run backups to all 3 places which i try to run it every few days to a week. cheaper then online services! - Russell Thomas

I'm using TimeMachine. I'm thinking about cloud solutions, but didn't find something cheap enough... - Simon Robic

I have one of the unibody Aluminum Macbooks with a 120GB SSD drive onboard. I plug this into 2 x 500GB USB disks when I'm at work. One of these is a Time Machine backup. The other has manually driven Carbon Copy Cloner backups. Done when I remember. Probably once a month. I also have a small mini-NAS on my work network which Apple Backup does an incremental network backup to once a day. At home I've got another small mini-NAS which I do the same. Also do a weekly backup to Amazon S3 using JungleDisk. - Alasdair Allan

Original, one copy on my Drobo via Time Machine and important (and not so huge stuff) on S3 via JungleDisk and on iDisk. Burning houses aren't as common over here as they are in the US. :) - Holger Eilhard

Each of our pcs has an external hd, an internal backup drive, and we have a backup server. We back up to the internal b/u drive, sync it to the external, then to the b/u server. It may sound like overkill, but we manage a TON of mission-critical data. Websites get backed up daily to the backup server and to off-site FTP. - Ron's Home And Hardware

I have a (1) a portable HD that I bring to work and store (2) there and also another (3) PC running Windows Server with a RAID5 setup. Tens of thousands of photos to lose would be a disaster. - Loukas Koufodontes

RAID 1 NAS, periodically copied to external USB hard drive. - Matt Mutz

Holger we have both fire and earthquakes so I decided no local storage for backups. It's all offsite now and I feel better for it. - todd

Mirrored NAS 500GB each, plus portable HDD... cloud coming soon! Evaluating Amazon vs. Mozy - thoughts?? - Susan Beebe

I agree that it feels good to be backed up. I use duplicate external HD for my photos, and SmugVault (Amazon S3) for offsite. Uploading photos to SmugVault is a pain - it is very slow - but it works. Of course, if you forget to pay Amazon, you lose your backup. Backing up current pix to SmugVault is no problem, but I have a 1.5TB backlog. I tried DVD offsite, but they don't last very long. - Tom Kimmerer

Dell's DataSafe runs on my laptop, important files (like my photos, vidoes, and music) are manually archived to external drives on a reg basis, and Live Mesh keeps my documents synced between my computers and the cloud. Everything else is online. - Sarah Perez

todd: if I'd live in earthquake and fire country like, for example, say California, I'd also be worried about onsite backup. But - thank gd - the worst thing that could happen here is a flood, and even that's a stretch... - Holger Eilhard

The drive I'm on, an IDE external drive, or networked drive, and I'd like to have some decent remote back up, but I need Terra bytes worth of it and something that lets me upload the file structure as is. I'm using acronis true image echo to back up my installs. vista ult. - Devlin Holliday

I use Second Copy 7 for automated backups. It automatically sends backup copies to two other systems on the LAN and one off-site backup via FTP on a remote server. It also makes periodic copies to a potable drive that is sent to an off-site location. Frequently changed documents are copied every two hours, others are copied every day or once a week depending on importance. - Vishwas

Media is stored online. Important docs are on an external HD and back up Gmails. - Mona N.

1 weekly copy to external HD, Same again on another HD kept out of the house. Critical files changing more rapidly to Dropbox. Not perfect, but has worked for me. - Pete Marshall

Windows Home Server - two copies of each file. And i'm thnking of JungleDisk or somthing to Amazon S3. - Roberto Bonini

Be careful with RAID 1/mirroring. False sense of security alert... - Adrian Scicluna

Drobo for storage, I back up important personal docs to S3/Jungledisk nightly. $5/month dirt cheap! I use an external disk for my 750+gigs of media (iTunes, photos (100+ gigs!) and my own videos, etc) that I take off site. I run time machine on my Macbook Pro at the office, take the macbook home, time machine drive stays here for offsite. - Lon Seidman

Time Machine to an external drive does well enough for me. Maybe I'm not paranoid enough, but I just don't see the value in an off-site backup for personal use. - David Wynn via fftogo

2 x Backup drives, alternate backups to each drive daily, and adrive.com for offsite backup (nice 50gig free account :o) ) along with DVD backup on adhoc basis - Carl Grint

Server to local using SyncBack SE, then Carbonite copies the local data off site. - Michael Krigsman

Virtually everyone who chimed in on this thread is a techie. Think for a moment about the typical consumer. There are no easy solutions. Larger hard drives make it easier to accumulate tons of docs, photos, music, and videos. Hard drives last a few years (and what data is there on reliability of drives that haven't spun up for years?). DVD-R and CD-R are probably only good for a few years (and of course are tiny relative to the data sizes we're talking about). Solid state still has a high cost per gigabyte. - Logical Extremes

Online backup is useful, but will the company be around in 3 years? 5 years 10 years? What about the privacy of your documents? Break up your data into chunks and upload encrypted files? Also, consider how fragmented data is for many consumers... multiple computers, gaming consoles, mobile devices, etc. - Logical Extremes

Mozy is in the cloud, backed by EMC, pretty simple to use (even for non-techies) and pretty cheap. Great support when you chat or call in. - Lee Herman

Keep in mind fire safes are designed to keep paper from combusting, not protect electronic gear from damage. Big difference. - stretta via twhirl

@Logical Extremes - your comments are definitely spot-on for Windows users. I think the Mac has a great built-in (and easy to use) solution. While Time Machine may not be configurable enough for us geeks, it's a real winner for trouble-free unattended backups. Very easy to swap disks too for taking them off site. - Lon Seidman

@Logical I see that a lot of non-techies are using external HDDs. They're pretty easy, but yeah, nothing lasts forever. - Sarah Perez

I've been using mozy.com for over a year now for pictures, personal files etc and it works well. I'm kind of a techie (a CTO @ ADP.COM), but, consider myself a consumer when it comes to my home stuff (has to be easy, wife doesn't have to think about it etc). I've recently started using Live Mesh to push files across all of my home devices as well which is great (esp. for one note, spreadsheets etc), but, not really a 'back up' system as such. External hard disks etc are a pain if you're not a techie in my view... - Richard Anderson

Logical: That's what Carbonite does. You can easily backup 100GB to them. David Friend, their CEO, told me he got the idea when a family member lost photos when laptop was stolen from a car. - Michael Krigsman

Every copy of data you put onto S3 is replicated (within and across data centers) so it's highly durable. It's where all my important data goes (through Jungledisk) and has been for a long time (disclaimer: I work there now, but was a user long before). Hard drives at home (a few TBs) are for things I look at every day and for sample libraries :) - Deepak

Right, I know there are tons of components to an overall strategy out there, but for the masses, they're lucky if they have an automatic on-site backup like Time Machine. My point is that computers aren't like a file drawer or an appliance. Good backup today requires a good strategy and a combination of tools, and most consumers aren't up to it. - Logical Extremes

The points raised by Logical Extremes are the same reasons I have not signed up with an online backup company. How do I know they'll still be here in 10 years, and how do I know I can trust them with my data? - Tom Harrison

Quite true @Logical Extremes--We all learn the importance of back-ups the same way: we suffer a data loss. Somethings I have backed up to DVD or another computer or "in the cloud" some projects live on in the "oral tradition" where I simply describe how great this thing is to someone else--an if it's lost--it's legend lives on...(silly)... - Rob Michael

External hard drive is 1. Mozy is 2. Mesh.com for extra important stuff is 3. Skydrive for paranoia - Jeff Douglass

The other issue that hasn't been mentioned is data obsolescence. Us techies can handle it if we plan for it, but as applications and data file formats get older, more and more files become unreadable for most folks. How many of you have old files that you don't have a reader app for anymore? I always encourage people to choose the simplest, most prevalent, and most open data format for a given application. ".txt" rules! - Logical Extremes

And I hope that people rank highly the availability of simple, open format, file export capabilities, when choosing which services will house their data (backup, social, etc.). - Logical Extremes

Re the trust issues with online backup, I think you have to go with a bigger player / name (like EMC owning mozy.com), that was my reasoning at least - Richard Anderson

Microsoft Mesh to sync across all machines, backup (using Syncbackup) of one primary to network attached storage, and Jungledisk to Amazon S2 as well for off-site + periodic checkpoint copies to external disks. I am a fan of backup software that stores the backup as individual files. - Ian D. Nock

Windows Vista Backup to 2 external drives at 2 locations + burning to DVDs. All long-term backups are regularly re-hashed and checked to make sure they can still be read. In addition, most of my backups contain a copy of an entire computer so all the programs are there. - Zian Choy

SuperDuper! plus selective JungleDisk for Mac. unison to server at school for laptop. SmugMug for photos. - Emil Sit

I'm beginning to think I should try online backup for offsite backups of my personal data. Has anyone used both BackBlaze and Mozy.com? How do they compare? Would anyone recommend another service at a similar price point? ($5/mo, unlimited) - Mike English

Roberto: Also look at Mozy Home -- It is also 5$/month unlimited. - Robert Miller

Different kind of workflow, also for @LogicalExtreme's non-techies: Keep an Outbox folder on every machine. Store pretty much every document you can there. Copy Outbox(es) to USB drive every week or so. Keep the USB drive in your car or on keychain. It's not a full-state backup, but 98% of computer state is not life-critical. Emergencies are rare and it takes less than a week to rebuild computer state. - Christopher Galtenberg

(Can also have VitalNonPrivate and VitalPrivate folders in Outbox - zip and email both to yourself, the latter with encryption -- that's your 'cloud backup') - Christopher Galtenberg

Just spent a few days sorting my backups out. Now have 1) machine image (Vista Ulitmate backup could use Acronis or Ghost) which will only be updated occassionally - on an external drive, 2) system image and incremental (updated monthly) on a protected local partition using Acronis 3) daily incremental backup of user data areas using Acronis on external drive and 4) daily copy of user data areas on an external server using Mozy - easy set up, good price, unlimited capacity. Can't be too careful! - Mark Warren

+1 Mark -- Good practices. - Robert Miller

I love my ReadyNas (http://www.readynas.com/) and have already failed over from a bad disk. Killer timing on this thread; getting ready to rsync to the cloud... - Jeff Malek

Currently Local system RAID 1....soon adding backup to NAS (also RAID1) & using an Offline backup service like Dropbox or other AWS hosted service. - Mark Krynsky

FWIW, http://journalspace.com/this_i... <-- this is a huge reason why RAID =/= backup. RAID = availability, Backup = recoverability. - matthew john ernisse

Carbonite. I just lost all data on my laptop a week ago. Restored my mission critical files immediately (after reinstalling Windows), then restored everything else over the next few days. There is no need to personally maintain three copies when you're using an online system with it's own redundancy such as Carbonite. - John Morley

Web-based backup -- Carbonite, Mozy or Jungledisk with Amazon S3 work nicely. I've shared John Morley's experience. - Sean McBride

I'm seeing Carbonite, Mozy and Jungledisk regularly mentioned... anyone care to chime in on why one versus the other? - Sean Katona

Sean Katona: I prefer Jungledisk with Amazon S3 to Carbonite and Mozy, because of price, user interface and reliability. You might want to try all three to judge for yourself. - Sean McBride

I used Jungledisk and switched to Carbonite because it backs up everything automatically as it changes and I don't have to worry about it at all. - todd

I haven't tried Jungledisk or Mozy. Carbonite is great for me because it's seamless... you just don't ever have to worry about it. If it's not backing up properly it will tell you. If you have any files over 4gig that you want backed up though, you do have to manually tell Carbonite to keep those backed up or else they'll be skipped. - John Morley

I back up my important files on a back-up server then I back-up the back-up twice on tapes: One copy in my office, the other in my wife's office. - Charles Nadeau

I've found backing up to be far less important than it used to be - almost everything I have is in the cloud. Code is in version control hosted offsite and backed up, documents are in google docs, email's in gmail, photos are in flickr, not much else left to back up. - Parand

I've implemented a tiered system with numerous local snapshots (Time Machine, in my case), and automatic remote sync (Jungledisk). Details and overall considerations for any backup strategy here: http://tr.im/2v7b - Phil

IDrive is one of the better solutions. It is faster for backups and restores compared to other services, and easy to use. But nothing beats a local drive based backup. Online Backup services are simply too slow. - Kitu Gidwani

Some people might find Adam Tow's strategy interesting: http://www.tow.com/2008/12/08/... - Joe Perrin

Someone needs to come up with software that lets you backup to a USB drive stored at your friend's house. You backup to the drive, take it to his house and plug it in, then do incrementals over the web. Encrypt everything. You do the same for him. - Dom

I just back up things to an external hard drive. And I refuse to back up to the cloud as I can't trust something that isn't under my control. - mathew, keynote not lame

I use Acronis to back up an image to my FreeBSD box with ZFS. (Sorry Scoble, they're western digital drives :). Then, I also use rsync.net (lots of space for cheap), and - you guessed it - rsync the important files (documents, pictures, etc) to the cloud. - David

I've been using Mozy and have recently been trying Syncplicity [http://www.syncplicity.com]. I don't know if I can justify the $10/mo for 50GB, though. The benefit to Syncplicity for me is that it's near real-time sync with unlimited computers. - Cory

Locally I have a RAID5 array on a dedicated server, otherwise Backblaze/DropBox. - Michael Laccetti

Dave Martin - Twitter

“Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little - Edmund Burke”

January 2 at 11:46 am - Link

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Jandy Stone

YouTube - Looney Tunes - Duck Dodgers In The 24th and 1/2 Century

January 2 at 11:40 am - youtube.com - Link

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"Heh heh. Had the silly thing in reverse." - Jandy Stone via Bookmarklet

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“Service to others is the rent you pay for your room here on earth - Muhammad Ali”

January 2 at 11:43 am - Link

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Erica Baker

“I made a full breakfast (with coffee) this morning for the first time in ages. Sitting here with my coffee and my laptop...I feel like a grown up.”

January 2 at 11:05 am - via IM - Link

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Dave Winer - Twitter

“One more thing -- as much as today feels like Monday -- it's not. It's Friday.”

January 2 at 9:25 am - Link

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It is both Monday and Friday all at once (at least for those of us lucky enough to get yesterday off) - matthew john ernisse

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You're right: it does feel like Monday, doesn't it? - Akiva Moskovitz

Happy Friday Dave.... nice to have extra days off :) Enjoy! - Susan Beebe

Are your sure this is Friday? I mean, yesterday felt like Sunday, so this feels like Monday. I should go back to sleep. - ha3rvey

Yeah...feels like a sleepy Monday. - Tutivillus Grift

Andrew Baron - Twitter

“Im going out on a limb here: I predict Apple is going to refresh the TV part of their offerings next week for the digital transition.”

January 2 at 9:59 am - Link

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“My fiancee and I at our engagement party. Such a fun evening. (I'm the dude)”

January 2 at 9:49 am - Link

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congrats to you both - Cee Bee

Nice pic...beautiful couple!! Congratulations!! - Susan Beebe

Thanks, thanks. We're excited about the process. The big day is April 18! - Nation Hahn

I don't say this much, but you two are really attractive and happy together.I wish you two all the best.. - Terence Washington

Thanks Terence. I (we) appreciate it. - Nation Hahn

@Nation, the scary irony is that my family is from Georgetown,S.C...... - Terence Washington

sweet pic! congratulations and best wishes to you both! - Carmen

@Terence Washington - invite 'em to the wedding haha. - Nation Hahn

Lovefest: Chris W

“Love SpinRite! Allows me to recover more HD's then anything.”

December 31 at 9:15 pm - Link

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SpinRite is still one of the best. - ha3rvey

Mark Wilson

“If someone's child is being noisy in a public place, be sure to make your comment respectfully. (Excuse me, may I smother your baby?)”

January 2 at 9:50 am - Link

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You shouldn't have to make a comment - noisy kids should be kept out of quiet places. - Sparky

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bwa ha ha ha ha - Lindsey in Love

I agree. I don't take my 19 month old to the movies. BUT, if you come to Norm's or Denny's.... well, "You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred." - Brian Norwood

Brian - a Denny's is fine, a movie theater is not. I put up with screaming kids in appropriate venues, but have no problem being rude to a parent thats rude enough to bring a screaming child to an obviously inappropriate place. - Sparky

Denny's is not fine and neither is IHOP . . . just lock them in a kennel when you're not home. - Lindsey in Love

As I said, I'm respectful of venue. Still, there is really no excuse for being a prick. Ever! And since the golden rule is "Do unto others as you'd have done unto you." If you come at me all snarky, I'm gonna just assume what you want is me immediately up in your grill. - Brian Norwood

Too awesome. I remember, as a child, attending movie theaters in the Bronx, and having a baby wail during the opening credits or a particular scene was common place. Hell, it was expected( and not rejected, for the fear of having someone punch you in the eye was also common). - Terence Washington

This is why it's a shame drive-in theaters are dying - Rodfather

Ok, that was a little (or a lot) harsh.But maybe you could consider, that a parent with a kid having a meltdown probably doesn't need any additional grief from you. I assure you, no parent says "Honey, I just sat down to eat, can you please scream your face off now?" - Brian Norwood

If your kid is too young to control themselves then perhaps they are too young to be in public. - Lindsey in Love

Sometimes kids are kids. However, parents should always be parents (when their kids require it) - Tutivillus Grift

Oh good lord. Not THIS discussion. You guys...kids can't learn to be quiet in public places without BEING in public places and practicing. Terribly sorry that you share the planet with young people who are just trying to learn how to adapt to manufactured cultural and social rules. Terribly sorry they aren't BORN KNOWING HOW TO LIVE WITH US GROWN UPS. They aren't. Deal with it. ahhahaha. - Lainie

What I love, is when waiters or other customers come up to us and make it a point to tell us loudly in front of other parents how well-behaved and QUIET our kids are. And while I can't stand OPKs, few things are more enjoyable than watching a parent rip into someone who says something or give them dirty looks. - Anika Malone

(sorry. I am an adult human mother of two who can't stand loud noises and doesn't like to have to deal with them and struggles EVERY DAY with my unrealistic expectations of my kids, but seriously...they are learning. It's not innate, and it doesn't just come naturally.) - Lainie

+1 Lainie - vijay

Lainie - that's normal - just keep your kids out of quiet public places until they have learned the lesson. - Sparky

Last time I was at a denny's OR an ihop, they weren't very quiet places. hahaha. - Lainie

Wait...I just realized that was probably a joke. More coffee for me. :P - Lainie

When a kid starts to cry, throw a fit or anything of the like. Then its time to go. Kids don't like having to leave and generally learn to behave the next time. Sitting there and ignoring them cause you're sick of their shit means you're not doing your job. - Lindsey in Love

ROFL @"Kids don't like having to leave and generally learn to behave the next time." So incredibly untrue unless the parent takes the time to teach the kid the appropriate behavior. Otherwise, the kid just learned that whenever they want to leave somewhere, they just throw a tantrum. And when a kid starts to cry, that's how they communicate. It's up to the parent to figure out what is being said. - Anika Malone

I agree Anika . . . I just didn't get into the subtleties of it all. I'm not trying to teach parenting 101, this comic was funny and if someone wants to get their panties in a bunch over it then they all I can say is the truth hurts - Lindsey in Love

For the record, I thought the comic was funny, too...it makes a good point about how frustrating it is to deal with children in public. - Lainie

I can relate to this comic, oh yes. That said, I think it's cool that the Speakeasy Theater group up here has had "Baby Brigade" showings where women are welcome to bring babes in arms. The showings are in the early evening 1 day a week and those who can't stand kid noise are forewarned what's in store. - Spidra Webster

+1 Lindsey Kids need to learn there is a time and a place - when and how to behave in different situations (mind you, it seems that some parents never learned this as kids themselves). Having said that, you cant expect the most best behaved child to sit in silence for hours on end, even as they get older. - Ian May

Spidra - that's an awesome idea. I fully support a baby brigade movie showing. That lets the parents see a movie, and lets me avoid the baby noise by selecting another showing to go to. Now if only the movie theater would enforce that by not allowing kids under <n> age in to non-baby brigade movies not rated G. - Sparky

You know what's funny tho. I've never really heard a baby cry in a theater (except maybe in animated movies), at least not enough to have it burned into my mind. No, my movie disruptions come from so-called "grown ups" who don't know when to shut up or how to turn their damn cell phone off. If you're so important you can't turn your phone off, maybe YOU don't belong in a theater either. - Brian Norwood

Prefacing this with saying that I find the comic funny BUT I remember those early days of parenthood when, after carrying a kid for 9 months and being basically a sleepless zombie for the next 3, when you REALLY want to get out of the house and see if you're still a human being for a few hours, it's really hard to just throw up your hands after 30 minutes and leave when the kid makes a few noises. Especially when you know that it probably means in a few minutes they will sack out (unless you take them out) - Lin-ZAY

Sparky, the idea is better than the reality. Mommy Matinees (as they're called here in LA) have loud obnoxious mom chit-chatting while their horrid little kids run up and down the aisle and climb over seats. I took my kid to a few when she was a few months old thinking I could finally see a movie. Nope. Couldn't even hear it because they turn the sound down lower on those too. :( - Anika Malone

Brian - I'm equal opportunity when it comes to rudeness. If you're (as in "one") rude, you don't belong in public until you've learned better. I think US society has become startlingly self-centered and rude and, to be honest, I despair of it ever getting better. (By which I mean that , YES, there are loads of childless adults that are rude and they should be held accountable for it.) - Spidra Webster

I love it when people without kids have all the answers. Everyone's an expert until they hit parenthood. And then you still don't really know what's up until you've had at least three and by then you're too tired to care who wants to smother your baby. - Trish Haley

Double fail: parent for being there and person for being rude. Sometimes a baby will sleep and then there is no problem. If they awake and are fractious then a sensible person would take