I certainly do. I want to do this with all of the sets that my dramatic society has made. It's like being there for those people who couldn't make it. - Nick Malaguti
“"Unfortunately, we're not cool enough to run on your OS yet. We really wish we had a version of Photosynth that worked cross platform, but for now it only runs on Windows."”
there's haze which is what you see most often in Hong Kong, and then there's pollution which you see in China. You should be able to see through haze, hope no sandstorms happen either - clarke thomas
They're just doing their part to patch the hole in the ozone layer. - Jim Norris
The answer is totally different. The smoud (like smog but cloud-not-fog) cover is to protect the networks from pirate satellites that want to use their powerful telescopes to view and broadcast the Olympics live and for free. - Kevin Fox
Does the haze in Hong Kong result from air pollution in Guangzhou and Guangdong? EDIT: Nevermind, i found my own answer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A... - John Lam
In an independent effort to monitor air quality not far from the Bird's Nest, the Associated Press began measuring and publishing data in this interactive feature. Updated daily, it shows how air quality varies dramatically, depending upon winds and prevailing conditions. http://hosted.ap.org/specials/... - John Lam
I've coded both i.e and firefox versions of sites and cant say one si better than the other, neither are fully compliant and in some ways i.e. is easier, however neither were unstable. - Mark via twhirl
I know the stats are probably very different for a tech site, but on the hospital site I'm involved with, 73% of our 1.3 mil visitors this year are using some form of IE. It's not just intranets! - Kevin Shannon
I'm forced to use IE7 at work on a Citrix session, and I can tell you most Web 2.0 sites don't work well AT ALL with it. - Rubin Sfadj via twhirl
Robert: No question about it. With Friendfeed's direct posting I'm spending a lot more time here. Won't be long before a lot more folks arrive methinks. - Dion Hinchcliffe via twhirl
I am spending much more time at and contributing more to the discussion at FriendFeed - Rob Greenlee
Yes, it does. But I'm curious what you like about Friendfeed over Jaiku or Pownce? Actually, I think Jaiku is most like Friendfeed. - Cheryl Jones
it sucks for in depth, threaded conversations, but don't overlook the fact that Twitter has enabled a lot of new conversations where they didn't exist before. - Duncan Riley via twhirl
I too would like to know why Jaiku hasn't had mass adoption, given that it has threaded conversations. Well, there is of course the problem that it is by invite only. - Morton Fox
re: Jaiku. Maybe Google bought the wrong company? - Thomas Hawk
Well Jaiku invites are very easy to get hold of: http://jaikuinvites.com/need-a... Would anyone who is currently on FF/Twitter be more likely to join Jaiku if it had open sign-ups? Or is there something else missing? - Adewale Oshineye
I was on Jaiku since the very early days. I never took to it. I didn't like the UI. I didn't like the community. It also was too early back when we were all discovering Twitter and Facebook. Now the early adopters have those things all figured out and are ready to try something else along with Twitter and Facebook. - Robert Scoble
I miss when it was simpler and all we had to follow were blogs. - Steve Rubel
Don't you think FriendFeed and Twitter should look at a way to pipe the conversation back and forth? - Lon via twhirl
And don't you think Jaiku is much slower at picking up your twits, and not so reliable?! I think that's the reason why jaiku is not popular! - Philippe Semanaz
Although, it is an excellent place to start a conversation to continue in FF. :) - Mathew A. Koeneker
I prefer twitter for posts, but rely on friendfeed to show them. Why post on FF alone, when you can kill two birds? - InsaneNinja
If I remember correctly, you have to click on a "Comments" link in Jaiku to get into the conversation....on FriendFeed, you can see right away where the action is....no clicking on links. I give the advantage to FriendFeed there. - Chris Rossini
With Twhirl, I no longer need to rey on Twitter as much. I follow a lot of people to network or keep up to date with the industry - friendfeed on twhirl does that 100 times better - Elias Bizannes via twhirl
Twitter is a lot like the chatter you hear at a cocktail party on the way to the bar, where FriendFeed is like stopping along the way to participate. - Jody C
Without a doubt. Half the time I forget to read replies on Twitter. Threaded is so much better. - Sean Alexander
twhirl feature request - ability to increase friendfeed conversation font size - Boris Gordon via twhirl
I like to start the topic from Twitter; easy to text from phone. Then this becomes my FaceBook status and threads can develop in FriendFeed. This works better for low traffic posters--LLiu said his FB friends got sick of all the status updates from Twitter. BTW Gordon, Alert Thingy is more readable than Twhirl (and merges into one window). - Mark Arend via Alert Thingy
I tried AlertThingy, but I didn't understand the twitter part. I must have been tired last night... - Rahsheen(isSoAwesome) via twhirl
AlertThingy is OK except it doesn't push old tweets/friendfeeds wth new comments to the top like twhirl does. - Boris Gordon via twhirl
@scoble I have an idea for a good FriendFeed article, and how it emphasizes "name share".. not fully developed yet. would like your thoughts. - J. Phil
Stephen B: it might push them above other friendfeed items but not above tweets it seems. - Boris Gordon via twhirl
That said, I don't like the fact that there is not a bookmarklet version which allows me to add a thought without forcing me to put a link too - Anand Sharma
I would like better filtering in FriendFeed, and the ability to sort comments, other than that, I'm happy here. - Jody C
this comment will show both on friendfeed and on twitter - unless you see it frist on twitter, in which case it will also be on friendfeed - martin english
I comment here because I don't get abused for answering Tweets here. - Robert Scoble
I also comment here because the answers are threaded. I also comment here because I can permalink to a cluster of comments about a single Tweet. I also comment here because people can "hide" this conversation if they don't like it. - Robert Scoble
oh dude, I see this being a blog post by morning! :) - Paula Hawk
I didn't know you could comment on friendfeed. - Jim Vrckovski
FriendFeed works, Twitter is down all the time. Twitter is a platform, FriendFeed utilizes this platform - for me, in the most useful way I've seen so far. (It's web-based, it allows conversations.) - sebmos
I don't put most things on both FriendFeed and Twitter. Why? I keep getting told I'm too noisy on Twitter so I'm using FriendFeed to reduce my noise. In fact, I've just told everyone to come over here instead of continuing this conversation on Twitter. Conversations aren't really good on Twitter. What is? Answering the question "what are you doing?" - Robert Scoble
Agreed with Robert. I really like the parallel nature of the Twitter / Friendfeed symbiosis. - Soulhuntre
This definitely looks like it's going to get viral! - Vinodh
Twitter need to make some sort of threaded comments system. - Richard Cunningham
I've thought of a better way to handle replies. Msaleem's original message is number 812534216, so to reply to reply @msaleem:812534216 which would map onto http://twitter.com/msaleem/sta... which should also be backwards compatible. Then clients could track the replies in a thread - Richard Cunningham
@ Richard Cunningham My first impulsive thought is : Threads would destroy twitter - Kamath
because it is another conversation thread that is easier to follow than on twitter and connect to other like minded people. - Rodney Rumford
I would use this more if Twhirl would just give me a sound stating someone replied to me. Also, threads are only one level on FF. Twhirl could technically do the same thing with Twitter - why not? - Jesse Stay via twhirl
Jaiku already has multi-level threaded comments. It's Google's fault that people aren't using it. - Morton Fox
Also, Quotably allows you to thread your replies to any tweet you want. - Morton Fox
You brought this on yourself, you know.... - GerryBot
Twitter is not intended to keep conversations. Let's try to keep what it was born to and then, if the tweet is interesting enough let's move the rest to FF. - Hernan Garcia
I think the biggest poblem is when people are adding comments that add nothing to the situation at all. Or when they are just rambling on and on about the same subject or make REALLY long sentences that clearly show that English is not their main language and that get lost in constructions that are hard to understand and you can clearly see that the commenter did not even take the time to read his own comment to see that it lacks proper structure and grammar. But it's like it's with cliffhangers, they are - Ruud van Wijngaarden
So sick of ppl telling me where to leave my comments. I'm sorry, but I'll comment anywhere I damn well please. Period. Get over it. - Shey
I agree with Shey. Recently, a friend of mine deleted his FriendFeed account specifically to stop me from replying to his stuff from here. - Akiva Moskovitz
See the 'choice' as a plus. It just takes a few seconds to come over here and look? - Charlie Anzman
Because we can't comment on them within twitter. I like the whole idea of comments. I wish I would recieve more comments on my friendfeed! - Cade Brown
When someone comments on Friendfeed (in lieu of Twitter), it should be a form of a compliment, showing that you have a higher level of exposure. - Zak K.
hehe scalabale ,,,, ummm sounds nice ;-) should anyone send as amazon present package to the HQ ... but I suppose that issues are known :-) - michael h
This is the worst I have seen it. Completely dead for the last hour... no error messages just nothing, like it never existed : ( - JP Dubois via Alert Thingy
web is down, also can't get to it through Twhirl, but IM and SMS seem to be working alright - Jeff Layton via twhirl
downforeveryoneorjustme.com says yes but istwitterdown.com says no - Mike Cohen via Alert Thingy
It looks like Twitter has been down for 2 hrs and 15 minutes. - Russellreno
Republicans have jobs. they wouldn't bother wasting they're life here. why would they bother? they know this is nothing but a den of elitist people that have no life ;-p - Noah David Simon via twhirl
Paul, just curious -- did you add this link yourself, or is this a hiccup from your previous post? I see that one of the reddit links goes to reddit.com, and the other to m.reddit.com (mobile?), yet both point to the same article. - Erik Dafforn
It seems to be a reddit bug. For some reason their feed will occasionally return a different url. There's already code for when they add a port number to the url -- I guess now I need to add "m.". - Paul Buchheit
cool，how long does it take?seems drawing a western girl more simplier than an Asian one. - kelvin
This took about 1.5 hours. It was easier because I was working from a black & white photograph. I find Caucasian faces easier to draw than Asian faces because the features tend to be more pronounced / less flat -- more shadows and highlights to work with. - Jess Lee
I've been pretending that I could learn to draw. Even dabbling at doodling. Your portrait reminds me that it takes talent which you obviously have in spades. Great job. - Seek Ground
Tried requesting preview release but "Something bad happened. Don't worry, though. The Spreadsheets Team has been notified and we'll get right on it. " - 2WheelTech
He's using window.name for object storage. This is a really interesting and potentially useful hack. I'm surprised that I've never heard of it before. - Paul Buchheit
Wow, that's clever. Never thought of that possibility before. - Meryn Stol
Although, if you do an "open link in new tab/window" that will, effectively, end the session, I believe. In many ways it is not as robust as cookie based options. Hmm... - felix
As the author points out at the end, this technique is insecure and subject to XSS attacks. This is because the value of window.name is available across domains. It's an interesting hack but I don't think you will find a lot of people using it for this reason alone. - Kevin D. White
@Kevin developers have done stupider things :) - Steven Hodson
Kevin, that's also part of what makes it interesting -- it's possible to do cross site sessions :) - Paul Buchheit
@Paul I agree the idea is intruiging. I just can't see most dev groups deciding that in this case the reward is greater than the risk. Afterall most groups that aren't terminally stupid are more concerned about not carrying data across domains. I don't want to belabor the point. It is a cool hack. I just think the utility of it is pretty low. - Kevin D. White
This is interesting for limited applications, but the security flaw is troubling. Perhaps it would be useful for "one-page" or "flash" session data where you have a multipage form and don't want to POST between pages. - Gary Burge
The second comment notes that both Firefox and Safari *crashed* if you tried to stuff > 32 MB into window.name. Sooooo I'm not sure the security implications are limited to XSS ;-) - Karim
Yeah, that's one of xkcd's "things", You should click thru to the site to see the mouseover. I only discovered them after I'd been reading xkcd for a few weeks (how slow am I, lol) and it brought a whole new level of understanding to the whole thing for me. - Slippy Lane
Love XKCD. Hate FF breaking the mouseover. - James Polley
... breaking the mouseover makes you click through to xkcd though... right... I mean otherwise you'd miss the hidden message! - Ross Miller
بچههاي فرندفيد: اقايون/خانوما. بياين حال اين خارجكيها رو بگيريم و تو اين كامنتدوني شروع كنيم در مورد اين تصوير كامنت بگذاريم.لطفا نظرتون رو در مورد اين تصوير بگين - mhmazidi
@mhmazidi اتفاقا این وب سایت رو خیلی وقته که دنبال می کنم...کمیک های خیلی خیلی جالبی داره...فقط یک کمی سنگینه و گیکیه به قول خودمون ...چیز جالبیه بهش سر بزنید گاهی ... (اسمایلی این هم سهم من در کامنت فارسی) ه - Selma
it would be nice if friendfreed could perform some basic translation if the user set it that way ;) - Hernan Garcia via twhirl
Ich "mag" Hernans Kommentar. [Translation: I "like" Hernan's comment.] - Philipp Lenssen
hehe ...i think we have managed to provoke some curiosity :D - Selma
@mhmazidi می تونم هدفتون رو از این حرکت بدنم ؟ - Navid Kashani
Yes it is Farsi (Persian) language ...and no ...as a professional translator I have not seen any efficient automated translation system for it yet (some students here are working on that), especially since the lines here are written in a broken informal style which makes it even more difficult to convert. - Selma
Selma, care to comment on the general jist of the conversation that took place in this thread? - Mark Trapp
Oh lol…definitely... sorry! Dr. Mazidi just commented there to share the picture with the Persian Friendfeed users as well as letting the English users know we do need a translating system ;) … I commented on the fact that I have been regularly following xkcd (I'm not a geek…it's just a phase that I'm going through :D) and advised others to do so as well… Navid was wondering why we were commenting in Farsi … we were also wondering if it might tickle other people's curiosity … our experiment proved effective! :p - Selma
I love this!! Thanks Bret!! who created this? too cool! - Susan Beebe
Haha, thaks Selma. I was wondering what was going on :) - Mark Trapp
Am I the only one who finds it annoying that this story is constantly being pushed up due to comments? I understand the point, but I've seen this on my FriendFeed every day for the past week and a half - Bartek Gniado
bart: my subconscious had the exact same reaction. I love xkcd but I was getting sick of this one. I guess it's time to start using the hide function. - Alex von Halem
Bart, hide feature, I believe you two haven't met. I'll leave you two to get acquainted. - Mark Trapp
@Mark Good point ;) I totally forgot about it - Bartek Gniado
I won't because the bad PR people don't listen and the good ones just get pissed off by being dragged through the mud. I have to write a blog post on the new PR, though. What's that? You create interesting experiences for both journalists and bloggers. Sun Microsystems last week, by inviting Neil Young over, did just that. - Robert Scoble
The PR machine is unrelenting, but it's there job. Just like you have to fill a certain quota for FastCompany, PR peeps only have so much to work with to communicate to the public. So, it sure might seem like spam, and in some ways it might be pretty spammy, but the fact that so many people are trying to make an impression on you is exactly the argument you make about Twitter, and the following metric. Being a high-profile public figure is going to draw lots of PR. It's just a matter of common sense. - Andrew Dobrow
So write the blog post - you know that there are many people who would listen to you weighing in on this matter - just as many of them picked up on it when you twittered. Your words do hold weight where it matters - so get them out there before people start deciding what you *meant* to say. - Lucretia Pruitt
Louis: yes, but I was seriously tempted. I just had other things I needed to do that day and I can't do everything cool. - Robert Scoble
Like I said on Twitter Robert - yeah, we get it, you guys get too much email, a lot of the email you get is terrible, you dont want press releases, we knowwww. But you guys are major influencers, you write about a product or company and they get sales, so those companies want you to know about them. These people are CEOs and boot strapping entrepreneurs that dont have time to pitch reporters and read your blogs everyday, so they hire us. Hopefully they hire the right us, but sometimes they dont, and you get 23 yr old people emailing you about their cutting edge, industry leading widget and it sucks. But, be one of the rest of us for a minute please. We do our best to read your stuff, know what you want to hear about and try to tell you about something in the least intrusive manner possible - we play the middle man between the high expectations of our clients and the egos/desires/exhuastion of the bloggers/journalists and we take the hit from both sides. Its tough, you might not agree, but it is. - Lisa
Though I'm sure there are PR guys that go way beyond their call of duty, to the point of abuse. And that is what I think Trapani's wiki is perfect for. But not for the PR trying to get their word in, because that's just their job. - Andrew Dobrow
I disagree. Being a high-profile person is going to draw a lot of ATTENTION but it won't draw PR if the people doing the PR know what they're doing and can find a hook that will speak to an audience. I don't care what Robert Scoble is doing UNLESS it relates to my life - business or personal - in some way that's truly relevant. Otherwise the releases and tweets and events and manufactured noise is just that, static I can do without. - Jeff Cutler
Andrew I've been in PR for 25 years. It's changed and I understand the email which in part I believe is fostered by emails in databases like Bacons, at least for journalists, and open emails without policies on blogs. So part of the issue is being clear about how to pitch a particular blogger. Now let's take the Twitpitch, that sounds great until the folks who don't understand twitter plaster the hell out of it with Pimp My Page posts. That may cause a huge amount of crap posts. One can argue that those people won't get followed. Perhaps that's the answer, which gets us back to square one - Albert Maruggi
Albert: That's the great thing about Twitter is that it's a total voluntary action to follow someone who is "spamming" or Twitpitching. I agree with Robert how e-mail PR can get a little rough sometimes, especially when you're such a high-regarded figure as Scoble, but that's just the price you have to pay I guess, since being well-regarded is not as voluntary as Twitter. - Andrew Dobrow
I'm weighing in as a journalist and a blogger (not the same thing) and I don't have an ax to grind with PR people, but I do expect them to follow certain rules. First, think like a reporter. If there's news there, then get the fact to me (or my editor) and we'll do the work we're paid to do. But don't take the two paths that infuriate most journalists...1. spoon-feeding us a slanted story that only serves you and your client. 2. treat us to a story that isn't news or anything that our readers care about. - Jeff Cutler
PR people are under a lot of pressure to show ROI for everything they do. Working for a public company, you still need to do the wire release and ensure your disclosure obligations are being met - there is no way around that for most market-moving announcements. With that said, that doesn't give PR people free license to spam the media and blogosphere. The pre-pitching and follow-up work should be hyper-targeted and relevant. At the end of the day, not doing this is more of a bandwidth issue than anything else. - Rachel Polish
Shhh, don't tell any of those clueless PR people that I'm subscribing to everyone on this thread except for @Prokofy. - Robert Scoble
I get more krud every day and the good stuff (usually little emerging developers) are getting really hard to find. I don't necessarily agree with some of the names mentioned by it's usually an individual developer or small team that really comes up with something fascinating ... so here's the top secret e-mail ... Naah ... not here :) Honestly think Louis and Robert have it right on this. If you REALLY want to, or need to get to the 'meat', publish your cell number?? - Charlie Anzman
? I'm not even in this thread, down boy. - Prokofy Neva
It's nearly time to take a little nap until morning, so I'll leave you with one more thought. Robert is spot on with his complaint/comment/feeling that he's constantly being pulled in many directions. When the grappling hooks from companies, PR pro's and journalists get so demanding that he has to make a decision, try to think where you (in his shoes) would focus your energy. I know I would block the companies and the PR folks and go with the writers who genuinely see a story and are going after it. - Jeff Cutler
I'm not arguing that PR can become a bummer when it's in such massive numbers, but I do think there is a bright side to the madness. The bright side being that, if you're receiving hundreds and hundreds of e-mails from PR people, you have MADE it! Haha, you know? It's a real marker of your status, almost to the point that it should be regarded with gratefulness. - Andrew Dobrow
PS: Seriously don't think calling out people one-by-one will do anything at all (filters? :) - Charlie Anzman
social media has become all about filtering. Problem is too much time is spent filtering now... scoble and others don't want to spend that much time filtering PR pitches to find the ones that are actually valuable. PR people don't want to spend the time filtering through blogs to find ones that matter to them. and now, average joe doesn't want to have to filter through the our back and forth on this topic on twitter, so here we all are on FF... I need a second brain for all this filtering. - adam christensen
The "create interesting experiences" concept definitely hits home, but it takes more resources than most have. Sun can get Neil Young, I can use some tricks to get A or B or C, but for the little guy it should be about persistence and creativity. - Andrew Feinberg
The problem is bad pr firms and others that send mass mailout to every possible email address for a given domain, the best way to deal with those is to firewall the offending ISP or offending country. Small well targeted email runs atleast don't become a nightmare for ISP's. - paul
the problem is the email platform is being abused so much that it is almost impossible for it to be taken seriously, anyone should ignore any email from any company that ask you for your personal details or login information. - paul
So my post was more of a rant than I was hoping for and I never really got to my point which is, cant we please give this a rest on the weekend, I dont want to have to avoid Twitter and the computer in order to not have to feel like me and my profession are getting kicked in the teeth again. I just want to be on to have some good conversations, and this isnt one of them - the PR bashing is exhausting, and it takes a toll every time I see another Tweet come across about it. - Lisa
OK can I make a small confession? I threatened my PR agency that I wouldn't pay their invoice until they both got onto Twitter and tweeted for 7 days straight and Followed at least 50 people. They basically said I was acting immature and I backed down because I was! Just goes to show you what Twitter-addiction will do to you. I love them both and they are my peeps but for the life of me I just cannot talk them into getting onto Twitter! End confession. - Elliott Ng
