Brian Daniel Eisenberg

Ahhhh! Now that answers a question I've had for quite some time. Nice catch! - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

Thanks Brian. Yeah, this was really bugging me. - Hutch Carpenter

So what determines when a service such as Twitter stores the actual character, and when it stores an alternative such as ampersand-g-t instead? Or should I just assume that only numeric digits and English-language letters are stored as single characters? - Ontario Emperor

Ooooh...good question. Any HTML/ASCII/database experts in the house? - Hutch Carpenter

Ontario: it shouldn't be this complicated, but a good reference is: http://www.comp.lancs.ac.uk/co... I'd put money on quotation marks, ampersands, and greater than/less than signs counting, and I'd hedge on the other special characters listed on this page. - Mark Trapp

Ontario - saw the sallyfield URL as a traffic referral to the blog. Love your List. - Hutch Carpenter

This bug is bad. The HTML encoding shouldn't count against the user's 140 characters. Thanks for the heads up. - Alan Le

Mark's right. Any characters that are reserved chars in HTML or scripting languages are likely escaped. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

Honestly, and this is the backseat programmer in me, the fact that it counts towards your total is pretty amazing. Most developers take any input and only escape during output, not the other way around, precisely because of situations like this; their database should accept UTF-8. I wonder why they thought this way was better. - Mark Trapp

Donald Rumsfield? - Mohomed=genieyclo

What? - tehKenny

@Brian guess i was right...funny how quotes like that stick with you... - Mohomed=genieyclo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... - tehKenny

I thought it was just a quote from Boondocks...but now that I know where it came from....I'll be back...I need to ROFL for about 20-minutes.... - ♫ Rahsheen ™ ★

Gin Rummy = Rumsfeld, Wuntzler = GWB - tehKenny

So much I don't know... - ♫ Rahsheen ™ ★

I don't know how Rah turned into Rummy, but now I'm scared - Mo Kargas

Me too. Too bad it doesn't auto copy to clipboard. I'll stick with the bookmarklet in my FF Bookmarks toolbar. Cool idea though. Would be nice to have a keyboard shortcut in gmail to auto-shorten urls and copy to clipboard. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

no worries, it's being a bit buggy for me at the mo - hopefully they'll improve it - Zee.

Indeed, trickery. The cool thing is that adding new keywords only involves adding the FriendFeed search results URL to the proper Google Reader tag/folder. Results then automagically appear back on FF. - Mike Reynolds

Would that be niftery? - Lisa L. Seifert

Whoa indeed. - Juan Pablo González

Good idea Mike, I was trying to figure out how to bring ff searches into a list, but of course, they don't allow their own feeds to be put into rooms/lists. This should solve the problem! The ff search is very powerful. - Kelly Johns

i don't begin to understand what you said, or what it would be good for - Gregory Lent

Gegory, it provides a way to constantly see things that match your search criteria within FriendFeed. So you can see all the posts and comments that mention "economy", "lolcats", or "rickroll" and have them appear in a feed. - Chris White

ah .. i like to search for mentions of "consciousness", say, so this would save me the effort of doing a search? - Gregory Lent

Yes, the benefit is having key searches available with one click. - Mike Reynolds

I did that for FOOD - my own "search" dumps as an imaginary friend - my "food" buddy --- dumps into a ROOM....yummy place - Susan Beebe (Santa Claus)

Clever, Mike. I've been searching for something like this. - Sean McBride

Don't feel bad Gregory. While I generally understand why something would be useful, I wish I were geek enough to do actually implement these fancy things myself. http://www.growmap.com/can-a-q... - Internet Strategist

By the way, I dropped into this conversation from a search at http://www.ffholic.com - Internet Strategist

:) i always like morton's posts. and "like" many of them, too. :) - edythe

I like when Morton runs out of *Likes* and has to go into manual *like* mode :) That's dedication! - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

@imabug, I keep threatening Kathy that I'm going to start making it again. I quit doing so, as it was way too easy to drink pints of it every evening. - Ian May

Ian, you make the beer and I'll make the soap. Perhaps even beer soap. - Stupid Ninja (aka Tina)

This was taken last month. This is sold at a local restaurant called 'The Glass Onion' They specialize in using as much local produce as possible. - Ian May

mmmm Rogue. One of Oregon's finest! Newport rocks! - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

^5 Tina - Ian May

I was being literal, Ian: it's Rogue Mocha Porter, to be exact. - Stupid Ninja (aka Tina)

@Tina I haven't tried that one, and I'll try anything once. I shall look for some. - Ian May

i have yet to try Rogue, but the mocha porter sounds tasty - Imabug

I first got the mocha porter as a substitute for Highland's Mocha Stout (the two are nothing alike, but I like mocha notes in beer). The mocha porter goes down very easily, and is lighter than its dark color would lead you to believe. - Stupid Ninja (aka Tina)

Yea, she has been absent since Thanksgiving. - Mathew Ballard

last I heard she might be moving to NY...so perhaps she finally did and is still getting settled in. - Justin Korn

The turkey did it with the electric carving knife in the library! - Outsanity

Poor Mona, and we didn't even get to send her a final LOLCat or piece of Bacon! :( - Mohomed=genieyclo

It's amazing how one frequent contributor missing can make the experience so much different. Mona where are you? - Brian Sullivan

I was thinking the same thing earlier today. Mona - we miss you & your *Likes*. Please come back soon! kthxbai. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

Mona's mostly been tweeting for a while. I miss her lots. I've been missing Alex Scoble as well... haven't seen him post in a while. And I noticed Steven Hodson hasn't been FriendFeeding much lately either. And Zee is on vacation... FriendFeed has lost some of it's flavor lately. - Lindsay Donaghe

@Lindsay, yeah I knew there was something different about the whole place...just felt weirder, a bit tenser, and much more sluggish. I thought it was just Thanksgiving, but it continues, ever since Zee left. Hope they come back soon! - Mohomed=genieyclo

To be honest, I didn't notice a difference... - Outsanity

WBBD Boot city - The Remix Album was the first CD I ever bought. I think I had a few on tape before then, but I don't remember.... - George Smith

Public Enemy, "Fear of a Black Planet" - Secret Ninja Steven

that album really made my high school experience, Steven. :D - Monique via IM

Missy Elliot Supa Dupa Fly - Kunoichi Lindsey-san

I'm not sure if I count Ronnie, Ricky and Mike as hip hop. - Monique via IM

Probably Beastie Boys later on. I always copied rap from friends. My brothers had Run DMC and Afrika Bambaataa early on though. - Rodfather

NIN - The Fragile but, that's not rap - Outsanity

The first one that comes to mind is Salt-n-Pepa's Very Necessary. - Yolanda

12" for Hard Times by Run D.M.C. - Nice Fish Films

Hard Times is probably one of the first hip hop songs I memorized. - Monique via IM

I don't remember which, exactly was first, but the first three I bought were LL Cool J's Bigger and Deffer, Run DMC's Raising Hell and LA Dream Team's Kinds of the West Coast...I'm pretty sure I bought all three on cassette tape. - Alex Scoble CISSP

ok points to Alex for LA Dream Team. - Monique via IM

The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory by 2Pac Shakur. I loved it, but was saddened by his death soon afterwards. - Mohomed=genieyclo

Wu Tang Clan... Wu Tang Forever. - Joshua Schnell

UTFO. Remember the Real Roxanne? - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

I still know every Roxanne song by heart. - Monique via IM

Low End Theory - A Tribe Called Quest. That was the first hip-hop I bought, but like the 8th I owned. - Anika Malone

ooh, good one Anika. - Monique via IM

Ice Cube Lethal Injection (that;s the first I'll admit to anyway lol) - john conroy

I loved Lethal Injection. - Monique via IM

DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince - He's The DJ, I'm The Rapper... On vinyl. That's right. :) - Nathan Chase

Rapper's Delight. The 12" single. Yup, I'm old school. Or maybe I'm just old? That was like '79-80 and I was 7 yrs. old. - Derrick

lol! how old were you when you bought it, Derrick? - Monique via IM

Bone Thugs-n-Harmony - The Art of War. I still have it. Akiva laughs about it because I'm seriously the whitest girl to ever live yet I know the lyrics to many, many BTnH songs. - Rochelle

Damn! Rochelle went straight for hardcore! - Monique via IM

Rochelle, feel free to post any vids of you spitting Bone. :) - Derrick

for real! - Monique via IM

:D I still love stuff like Blackalicious and Jurassic 5. - Rochelle

true story, i knew jurassic 5 when they were two separate rap groups. Good Life cafe in LA for the mother fucking win. I saw so many hip hop acts come up in that environment. - Monique via IM

Monique, I'm jealous! I've never gone to hip hop shows even though I love the music because I feel so out of place. I just rock out at home. :) - Rochelle

Sure, and the data is there, FF isn't displaying it. Please ask them to find a way of showing you the RSS <description> element. Its been there since 1999, it's in no way an innovation. This is called FriendFeed not FriendSterileStuffWithNoContext. :-) - Dave Winer

Agree Dave. They should do the same for all pics coming from Flickr, Zoomr, Picasa, and other photo feeds. I inject lots of meta into my pics and it would be great to see desc, tags, geoloc info, etc exposed in FF. I prefer things in my stream to be overflowing with (meta)data. Why hide the meta when its sitting there right beneath the surface. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

Robert -- I'm not going to do it. I made this request repeatedly in May and June when I was working on the same problem for NewsJunk. I don't know what they did with the requests, and honestly -- it shouldn't have been necessary to make the request, because this is about feeds, and description is one of the most basic feed elements. - Dave Winer

Further it's a lot of work to set up an API connection for a feed, and it has to be maintained, last time it was kind of interesting, cause I hadn't played with the API. But this is exactly the kind of thing they should be doing on their end, to gain leverage for everyone. And maybe other people aren't programmers but have feeds? They need to do this, and if I fix it on my end now, they have no incentive to do it. Or maybe they don't want the content. Clear choice. - Dave Winer

Only post to one service rather than posting to them all. - Mark Trapp

I think he means like if you post via Ping.fm or on multiple sites, but hey, that's a solution! - Mohomed=genieyclo

FriendFeed treats all services indiscriminately. If you don't want it to show up on FriendFeed, remove the service or don't use the service. It's pretty simple, really. - Mark Trapp

I'd do that if something was only going to parrot other services, I mean, why would you use it in the first place if it's just a copy of something else? - Mohomed=genieyclo

Try Yahoo Pipes? I import my FF posts to Tumblr. I use Yahoo Pipes to strip out my FF entries from the tumblr RSS, and then import that RSS feed here instead of the original. Maybe you can do something similar? - David Adam

Took me a bit of manual tweaking of the various services I was pinging and blasting out to. For example, I removed Jaiku, Pownce, and Facebook updates to get rid of my Twitter echo. Took a bit of tweaking, but it's a great way to reduce the revirb, which can be quite annoying. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

Actually, David, I think you can! Import all your feeds into a pipe, then only export one of each thing that is the same across all services, and then import that pipe into FF. Remarkable, never thought of that! - Mohomed=genieyclo

Right on! - Peter Simard

Welcome. - Eric @ CS Techcast

ok, the option of watching other people's streams just ROCKS o_O - george tziralis

I know that I'm one of them but OMG how can you stand this?! - Orli Yakuel

Orli: I LOVE this. But usually I don't watch it live like that, but just refresh often. - Robert Scoble

still unfamiliar with FF. mostly on twitter as @2healthguru. thanks for invite and keep up the videos!! - Gregg

I'm curious about what are your lists looks like? Do you use lists? - İbrahim Uzun

What i keep thinking about when i see this is how can this be used to show others the power of Social Networking (FF and Twitter in particular). Good example Robert. - David Bisset (sn)

It. Doesn't. Stop. - Jared Smith

I usually drop into real time mode for a quick peek at what's happening *NOW* and then retreat back to the main FF UI and my custom lists. Good stuff though Robert. Always interesting to see your view of the noise as it flys by. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

hahah, SCARY - Andre

Jared: now you see what I mean by "the World Wide Talk Show." 24 hours a day. It's crazy! And I'm only following 1/10th to 1/100th of those on FriendFeed (and that's a small number compared to Twitter and Twitter is a small number compared to bloggers and bloggers are a small number compared to humans). Now you understand why the value is going to be in the filtering systems that the geeks make for us. - Robert Scoble

Brian: real time really rocks during news events like #mumbai or Election Night. Watching what you all were saying in real time then is a lot of fun. - Robert Scoble

watching it must cause FriendFeed quite a bit of traffic... :) btw, being smart is actually bad, most people don't like you being smarter than them (talking out of experience here, so better don't waste your time to argue...) - Dorian Muthig

Do you think Scoble is right for following so many then, or is he causing himself more hassle then it is worth? - Josh Chandler

This is crazy! Just crazy stuff! I sometimes can't even follow my own feed of 63! How does RS ever respond to any of our comments? - jamesdkirk

Awesome, I've embed in my blog autor's profile!! http://www.abc.es/blogs/elpunt... - Javier Duro

His is a robot. You actually believed that he was a real human being?! How naive. - Rolf Schewe

jamesdkirk: I just refresh often and type fast. Rolf: did you have to tell everyone the truth? - Robert Scoble

so you don't watch the realtime feed and try to interact then? That makes sense. - jamesdkirk

Scobleizer: The Lawnmower Man! - Sean Reiser

Well every once in a while I think people need mental breaks from watching 4,500 people stream tons of informations into Friendfeed! - Josh Chandler

Whoa, busy, very busy. - Grant Bierman

very neat! - V for Veselka

jamesdkirk: I really only look at real time feed during news events like Election Night or earthquakes or #mumbai. It's easier to interact just by refreshing the browser and clicking "Comment". - Robert Scoble

MY GOD, it's full of stars... - David Bisset (sn)

Strangely enough it doesn't really seem that much worse than mine with a lot less subscriptions. I really do