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“QUESTION: Since I threw it out there - other than the coffee you make at home, where do you get your morning coffee or tea?”
November 20 at 8:20 am - Link
Raley's down the road started serving Peet's coffee a few months ago - NOM-ness. If I need something near work, eh, Starbucks. :/ - Helen Sventitsky
Sheetz - jlt
My morning Diet Dr Pepper is in my own refrigerator, unless for some awful reason, I've allowed myself to RUN OUT - that's an emergency of epic proportions! - Ladybug Heather
Sheetz FTW (of course, nobody will recognize this unless they're here in the '4 state' area :) - Charlie Anzman
I live in Seattle. I think that question answers itself. :P - Rochelle
Anything I drink in the morning I make unless I buy a cherry coke from the convenient store. If I drink coffee then it's from Starbuck's and usually and afternoon thing - Kunoichi Lindsey-san
I work for SBUX in Seattle...you do the math :-) - Live4SoccerVacations
I don't. Not a big coffee drinker. Water is more my style. - Daryl aka Lil Trumpet Boy
Starbucks - not coffee though. Soy Chai FTW - George Smith
Depends on the day. Usually Starbucks because we do a run there every day from the library. Jail days, I don't drink any after home. Sometimes 7-11 if I have time between the school bus pick up and work. - Alan Simpson
Diet Coke, from my fridge. - Logical Extremes
I make a pot at the office as soon as I get in every morning at 8:30. needless to say, the folks around the office appreciate having a fresh pot on when they get in. - Jason Kucsma
I get tea at work. - Morton Fox
Dunkin Donuts. Barring that, 7-11 (Not as bad as you would think) - Ben Jackson via twhirl
This great coffee shop around the corner from my house called Green Beans WorldCafe. Their french roast makes me wet myself. - Amanda H.
I usually get my java from the McDonald's across the street from my work or the Einstein Bagels down the street from my joint, unless I want something special, in which case I visit the Starbucks on the way to work. - Secret Ninja Steven
Starbucks. - Monique
office - Valley
In an office full of caffeine addicts/coffee snobs, we make our own :-) - Chris Cotsapas
At the drive-up coffee shop where I used to work as a barista. :-) - Jenny R.
From a small kiosk called L'aroma on the university campus where I work. - Nancy M.
Tim Hortons! up here in Canada - sofarsoshawn
Well, if you live in Canada, then the answer is obvious! - Ladybug Heather
Work (it's free) - Shey
I've only been to Tim Hortons once, and I miss it. - Jonathan Hardesty
The problem with the coffee here at work is the same as the tea on the Heart of Gold. It's something like what I ordered, but not really. - Secret Ninja Steven
I always loved that description, Steven, "something almost, but not entirely, unlike tea." - Ladybug Heather
Tim Hortons or White Castle (no joke, they have surprisingly good coffee). - Derek Coward
Java City or Dunkin Donuts - Steve Spalding
Tim Horton's or Dunkin Donuts if want a quick fix, there's also a decent local drive through place, all on the same corner by me. At school it's Starbucks. Hanging around town I prefer one of two local coffee shops. - Heidi Blanton-Hansen
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*bows down and worships this man's geekiness* - Ben Jackson
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November 18 at 10:51 am - Link
Whoops. Sorry, I was signed in as you... ;) - Ben Jackson via twhirl
LOL Ben, at least you didn't do any damage :~/ - Logical Extremes
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“I hate when people say, "That's gay." To be gay, to stand up in this society, with all the BS, all the hatred, all the Bible-thumping, all the sneers, jests, prison rape jokes, swishy florists stereotypes...in the face of ALL of that, to say: I *am* gay, is a bold, brazen, and brave thing to do.”
November 18 at 9:01 am - Link
You say true, Sir. - ♫ Rahsheen ™ ★
I agree...and that begs the question...why is it still ok to call women a bitch? Seems like words that have been used to oppress a group of people often become a permanent part of our language landscape. - Jean Ann Van Krevelen via twhirl
Who said it was ok to call women bitches? - ♫ Rahsheen ™ ★
Jean Ann, do you mean amongst women? - Shevonne Polastre
yes, I do - Jean Ann Van Krevelen via twhirl
I know that I am guilty of saying things like that from time to time. Sorry Derrick and Jean Ann! - Shevonne Polastre
Agreed, Derrick. It seems these days, I hear it more from younger kids (high school, etc.) than from adults. At least, I don't hear it so much from adults I'm around? - Rochelle
And society says it is ok to call women bitches...think about this...when a women gets too assertive or doesn't mind her manners, what's the first thing she is called? A bitch. Not every single person does this, but our society sanctions it...how many times has Martha Stewart or Hillary Clinton been called a bitch? I am guessing quite a lot. It is a word that has been used to keep women in their place...and it is still used that way. - Jean Ann Van Krevelen via twhirl
Well, with all oppressive language, the group it is used against has the choice to reclaim it...to use it as a badge. And, yes, there are plenty of adults in the working world who call women by this name - Jean Ann Van Krevelen via twhirl
flag on the play; flagrant misuse of the phrase 'begs the question'. 10 yard penalty. [tweet] - Anika Malone
And yes, I have tirelessly advocated against the term "that's gay" since the first time I heard it in probably '93. I was so taken aback, that I used their race as the adjective for "lameness". When I do that, people realize how stupid they sound, but there are a lot of people out there who still insist they aren't being harmful. - Anika Malone
I stated this a long time ago myself, Derrick. It's as if people won't bother to get what it means, anymore. - Helen Sventitsky
This is one of my huge pet peeves as well. I am a gamer/geek, and back in the late nineties when just about everyone I knew worked for Cisco, we would have big lan parties there, and that was when I started really hearing it. I would get on my friend's cases about it, and they would always seem so flabbergasted. Then I would say "Am I your friend?" and they would say "Of course" and I would say "I have probably been with more guys than your girlfriend. Is it still funny?" That shut them up (for awhile). - Neal "thePuck" Jansons
I used to be most vociferous about this very issue, but you know what? I'm kinda immune to it now - even said it myself on occasion. I think it's reached the point where "gay" in that context no longer means homosexual. Words shift their meanings over time. - Slippy Lane
Also...yo, where my byatches at? (sorry, had to, lol) - Slippy Lane
@Slippy, as evidenced by the fact that gay originally meant 'happy and festive'... - Stupid Ninja (aka Tina)
@Slippy That's just not how such language works. It is used to reinforce norms and exclude; that's the whole point. Do you think people just chose the word randomly? It was chosen for exactly this reason, reinforces homophobia and stigmatization, and the biggest issue is that it is a word for a group of people and it is being used as a synonym for lame and stupid, thus saying those people are lame and stupid. - Neal "thePuck" Jansons
What if the whole world decided, en masse, to start using the word "American" as a synonym for fat, lazy, ignorant rednecks. You hear it constantly online and in popular culture, and when you call foul or say it is offensive, people just say "Oh, it doesn't mean natives of America in *this* context, you are just being too sensitive". Should we just say "Oh, words shift their meanings" or call it for what it is...offensive and attacking? - Neal "thePuck" Jansons
dude, don't be so 'merican.. - Gregory Lent
Neal, you can be offended on my behalf if you like, but don't feel it necessary. I'm gay (when I'm between women, anyway, lol), and I'm not offended by the use of the term "that's gay" in a derogatory way. As was previously mentioned, most of the youngsters using it aren't even aware that it's the same word. - Slippy Lane
@Neal You mean they aren't doing that now? Are you sure? - Ben Jackson via twhirl
Also, yes TIna, exactly, and as Jean Ann suggests, if we take ownership of the term, refuse to be insulted by it, there ceases to be a problem. - Slippy Lane
@Slippy: that's pretty much what's happened with the term 'queer', don't you think? Queer = strange, odd, or out of the normal but seems to have been readily adopted as a non-derogatory identifier (and yes, I'm aware it took a while). - Stupid Ninja (aka Tina)
@Slippy Technically, among gamers it isn't the same word (usually written ghey). This isn't about getting offended, really, this is about not allowing what should be offensive to become institutionalized. - Neal "thePuck" Jansons
Let's try a different analogy...what about the word "gyp" or "jew" being used as a synonym for cheating people on a deal? I am not Romani or Jewish, don't give two figs for either as a culture (I don't know any Romani, and find religiously designated races an obsolete concept), it doesn't offend me, but I still think it is wrong to use language to reinforce prejudice. It doesn't matter if they don't know why they say it...most people don't recognize their own institutionally reinforced prejudices. - Neal "thePuck" Jansons
Why use an analogy at all? Why not just accept that it's not that offensive? - Slippy Lane
That's your argument? I make points, all premise/premise/conclusion like, and you just say "Why not just agree with me?" I don't agree because I think it is pretty damn offensive, and I have argued as to why in multiple ways. Your main argument seems to be "It doesn't offend me, therefore it isn't offensive", an argument I find unpersuasive. - Neal "thePuck" Jansons
In the end, there's not much we can do about how others use and employ language, no matter how offended we might be by specific usages. My best straight drinking buddy calls me fag whenever he sees me and I understand it's full of affection, and respect even. (He'll be the first one to tell you than he'd be nowhere without his gay male mentors.) Any attempt to regulate instances when it's not is likely a waste of time and energy. Don't sweat the small stuff. - Rick Powell
Calling stuff gay and someone actually being gay are two separate things to me. I know the former is wrong, but I don't automatically make that connection. Also, I refer to men and women alike as "bitches" if I get mad, but I wouldn't actually call a woman a bitch to her face. That's just wrong. - ♫ Rahsheen ™ ★
But just because some people have decided it isn't offensive doesn't make it not offensive. It's not an argument. There is no argument. - Orphan Spinster Librarian
Because, Neal, I think there are far greater injustices in the world to spend one's energy on, therefore I find your argument irrelevant. You can criticise me all you like, but when all's said and done, who are YOU to say whether a phrase or term "should be regarded as offensive"? I hold that my argument is valid, that if no offense is specifically intended then none should be taken. That's all. I don't know how else to say it, it's really not that big of a deal, and the general consensus seems 2 b with me - Slippy Lane
Hmmm, reading back over my last comment, it doesn't seem to make much sense. I must be tired of arguing with you over this non-issue. :-) - Slippy Lane
er, but what if you say "that's gay" to refer to something that's wholly appropriate for 13-year-old girls, but not for grown a** men, unless said men are gay? i'm thinking glitter, lame, and rhinestones here. (and that's 'lah-may' as in the fabric. not 'layme') - tiffany
Funny how no one mentions the elephant in the room, the word so scary that people who curse like sailors will still say "The N-word" in hushed tones, or write it with an asterisk in place of the "i". What makes the outlawing (essentially) of that word NOT "sweating the small stuff"? - Neal "thePuck" Jansons
Because, dear Neal, that's NOT what we're talking about. You can't say "X" is offensive therefore "Y" must be offensive too. Culturally and historically they are VERY different concepts. - Slippy Lane
I don't understand how racist epithets became the elephant in the room? - Rick Powell
More than anything, its a respect issue, no? Whether it's someone's sexual orientation, race, or gender, we all should be respected and respectful, no? - Derrick
Then context is the final arbiter. There would be no Spike Lee movies, Jean Genet novels or Lenny Bruce routines without these words that offend people. I, for one, would not want to live without Do The Right Thing, or Our Lady of the Flowers, or any number of other works of art that use language in ways that might offend someone. Compared to that, do I really care what words some 15 year old twat uses when he's trying to put down his mates? Let his parents discipline him. I don't have the time. - Rick Powell
Here, here, Rick. I am grateful for your thoughts on the thread. (and LOL at twat) - Derrick
@Rick OK, now that is a good point. @Slippy I am not criticizing you, it's called debate, I put forth an opinion, argue for it, you put forth yours, argue for it. Not meant to be personal, supposed to be about the positions and arguments. - Neal "thePuck" Jansons
I think of it this way: I want control over the effects of my words. Sometimes I want to hurt someone, but usually I don't. So I choose words to match the effect I want, and since I know that "that's gay" hurts many gay people (and many of their friends) I choose other words instead. - Deborah Fitchett
@Deborah That's a lovely human thing to say and it's really just that simple. - Rick Powell
Deborah +5 :) - Neal "thePuck" Jansons
Derrick, its the wrong thing to say to be sure and it's something I always try to avoid saying because I know the connotations, but you'll have to forgive me a little bit because once in a blue moon it slips out. Childhood conditioning. Lets hope that it disappears from use completely in future generations - Duncan Riley
hows about "ghey"? - thomasrdotorg
Nice, Deborah. Thanks for that... :) - Derrick
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November 17 at 11:58 am - Link
Eat the peach. - Mattie Kenny
Is it a giant peach? - Logical Extremes
I could eat a peach for hours. - tehKenny
You broke the interwebs! - Josh Haley
I'm not wearing any pants - Ben Jackson
Is this an attempt at self-fulfilling prophecy? Also, I'm not wearing any pants either. - Slippy Lane
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Oh Dear. a #Bacon iPhone case... http://is.gd/7PQ0 Bacon is getting out of control.
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BACON CAN NEVER BE OUT OF CONTROL! HAIL BACON SAVIOR OF MANKIND! - Ben Jackson via twhirl
lol, okay. Wow. - ax0n
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This seems pretty straight-forward. Change your password to something stupid, check your twitter rank, change your password back. It's what I do whenever a third party asks for my password. I do wish more sites would issue auth keys for API calls, though. - ax0n
Or just flat out don't use services that have no tangible benefit... - Ben Jackson via twhirl
Agreed, but I meant in general. I didn't even BOTHER with twitterank. - ax0n
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First rule of digging yourself deeper into a hole: STOP DIGGING. - Ben Jackson
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I'm sorry, but these laws are scary. - Ben Jackson
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Court avoids dirty words during TV indecency hearing [firstamendmentcenter.org]
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"The Supreme Court spent an hour yesterday talking about dirty words on television without once using any or making plain how it would decide whether the government could ban them." - Logical Extremes
Since we're talking about the 1st Amendment, also see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... - Ben Jackson
Ben, the Fairness Doctrine died 20 years ago. I know there's talk of reviving it, and I still hold out a special place for free broadcast radio and TV since they are the main way some people still have to get news (though that will be significantly altered after February 17, 2009), but no one that I know of is seriously suggesting we have a Fairness Doctrine for cable, satellite, internet, etc. I'd actually like to see broadband internet access treated like the Right today that TV was in the 1950s-1960s. - Logical Extremes
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This is bad because... ? - Ben Jackson
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Mass. voters OK decriminalization of marijuana | Boston Globe
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In a less-covered but important Election Day development, Massachusetts voters overwhelmingly vote to decriminalize personal possession of marijuana. I think this brings it to 12 or 13 states with some kind of decrim. Encouraging outpouring of common sense today. - Anthony Citrano
Damn. Why wasn't this on the WA ballot!? - l0ckergn0me
How far to Vancouver? ;) - Anthony Citrano
This passed last night, but the much talked about "eliminating greyhound racing in Massachusetts - Terence Washington
@Terence: whaa? - Anthony Citrano
Depressing. If people don't want a criminal record, perhaps they should have opted not to carry drugs around in the first place.... - Ben Jackson via twhirl
Uh Ben, that's some pretty screwed up logic. So, people should not try to change laws they believe are unjust? We ought to just accept all existing laws as eternally codified versions of what is true and right and just and perfect? Come on. Regardless of your position on the issue surely you can agree that part of the duty of citizenship is to try to change laws we believe are immoral. Our national history is full of powerful examples of us doing exactly that. - Anthony Citrano
+1000 @Anthony - xero
Add another +1000 to Anthony. Indeed sir. - Ninja Haggis (Sean)
Massachusetts smokes two joints in the morning and smokes two more at night. - Thomas Hawk
@Thomas, We're not called Mass-holes for nothing. @Anthony, I was trying to articulate how the measure to eliminate greyhound racing was almost defeated. - Terence Washington
that's what power to the people means, actually :) - stefan
@Stefan - exactly. people really stun me sometimes... but hell, it's yet another of those drive-by comments so typical of social media. hrrumph. ;p - Anthony Citrano
mass is right - Gregory Lent
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I've written embarrassing code, but come ON. What are these people THINKING?!?! - Ben Jackson
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DAMMIT! I was going to roll out a few WFW servers this weekend. Crap. Now what? - Ben Jackson via twhirl
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