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Linux: Amir Beitollahi posted a link
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Richard Stallman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
1 hour ago - via Bookmarklet - Link
Hate to say it, but RMS's "everything should be free" world is gonna come crashing down as donations dwindle and programmers (who had day jobs to support their off-hours programming activities) lose their jobs. Gotta pay the bills. I'm saying this as a serious Linux advocate, community participant, etc. - Ninjitsu Jason Huebel
Ninjitsu, "RMS's world" has been around and growing momentum since before most of us were born. Some little economic depression isn't going to ruin the logic of free software (in many ways it strengthens it). Also, you completely misunderstand what the movement is all about. Anyway, do you want to make a bet about your "crashing down" prediction? - ⓞnor
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Louis Gray posted an entry on louisgray.com
September 22 at 1:20 am - Link
So far, the commenters on my site _don't_ want Twitter and FriendFeed to go mainstream. Do you want to keep these technologies to yourself? - Louis Gray
I do, I'd say Twitter probably has the best shot right now. FF is still over the head of too many, they dont know (and dont want to know) about rss - sean percival
I really hope with the continuous feature additions and improvements to FriendFeed, it would soon have a universal appeal. There are so many Nay-sayers but I'm behind them 220%. :) As for Twitter - I don't really use it anyway, so it doesn't make a difference. Although I would LOL if they were to start charging monthly fees. ie: Threaded replies are only for premium accounts haha - Mona N.
This weekend I excitedly told an engineer-friend (hydrologist) about meeting the "inventor of RSS" last week. And he said "what's that?" -- Bastard. - Brian Hendrickson
I'm with friendfeed. And yes, it should go mainstream ASAP. Many just want to go to friendfeed because "nobody else but you are on there, I know". So that is the real problem. - Ryo
Twitter will go mainstream as people always want to be noticed. Friendfeed has a harder road because it is not about the user, it is about the information. If Friendfeed goes mainstream, it will be in a much different way, like a major research or news tool. - Rob Diana
FF will go mainstream as soon as people realize that it's *not* about the information, it's about the conversation. Twitter in its current form is a megaphone broadcasting system a la FB status updates, without a realistic and understandable method of replying. FF on the other hand not only let's you share information, but creates a method to *discuss* it. It's biggest obstacle for going mainstream is the UI. - Stupid Ninja (aka Tina)
Tina, I mostly agree about the conversation, but the conversation is typically based on the information at this point. I think the amount of information that passes through will be too much for most people until better filters are in place. I admit, I tend to be very pessimistic when it comes to growth and mainstream adoption of most tech. - Rob Diana
I am all for both apps hitting mainstream fast. Both serve excellent online communication needs. Twitter provides broadcasts and quick short replies; whereas FriendFeed provides the ability to share information and generate conversation / feedback regarding that info., which can blossom into an entire community around that topic. Twitter's challenge is stability, scalability and UI. FriendFeed's challenge is search, organization and UI. - Susan Beebe (Santa Claus)
Rob, I can only base statements on my experience of course, and they're going to be affected by who follows me. With that said, my most engaging conversations on FF have usually been around a topic tossed up as a status update/question, not a link to an external post. Also, unlike FB and TW which offer a one to one conversation model (excepting FB groups), FF automatically offers a one to many conversation model. - Stupid Ninja (aka Tina)
FriendFeed will go mainstream because it's a better medium than email for sharing links and news. I wrote in detail on this here: http://friendfeed.com/e/c2f76d... - Bruce Lewis via fftogo
couple quick comments: not everything needs to "go mainstream" to be a success, it is ok to fill a niche & some things are not products but rather features best integrated into or augmenting something else - i think friendfeed fits both these criteria (current and future) and i see that as a good thing personally... - mike "glemak" dunn
@Mike - I've been thinking this too lately. What is "a success"? Is Apple a "success". They only have about 5% of the market of computers, yet I think there is a lot more media buzz about Apple unveiling a revised macbook than there is about Dell or HP introducing a revised 1050e or whatever they call them. If you get 1% of Americans using your product, that is 3 million people. That is a lot. - Robert Felty
What is mainstream? 25% of US population? 10% of RSS/tech geeks? 1% of the world? 10% of people who would pay for this service? FF's current UX won't scale to a large population having lots of real conversations here. But it does serve a good niche (or two or three) right now. But what % of the world has/wants to have conversations like this? Mainstream would drive FF to be everything to everyone. Would we (as early adopters) still like it then? - David Lee
I have a radical idea... how about Twitter just finds a way to make some money. Mainstream is great... but completely misses the point... - Brian Roy
I am "mainstream", but I've been on FF for a year as of tomorrow. - Anne Bouey
Has anyone else noticed the push the major media give to some services and not others? How often did Television Programming (news, sitcoms, talk shows) talk about "googling" something; did you ever hear them talk about "yahooing" or "asking" anything? Then it was myspace, myspace, myspace followed by Facebook. Makes me wonder if those who own the media heavily invest and then push their investments. - Internet Strategist
Internet Strategist: media people just want to be cool. It's easy to understand why they push certain stuff. I do the same. I have no investments in anything. - Robert Scoble
Will Twitter and FriendFeed become mere commodities, fed to the masses by media moguls, to sell their product ? Because that is their job. I think Twitter is becoming more mainstream, more noticed and talked about - but not generally understood. How would it be affected by advertising and ten times the traffic? FF will take longer to catch on, even though it is better. Twitter plants seeds that can be grown in FriendFeed. - Chris Loft
frankly i don't think Joe the Plumber is really that interested in such a mass of content/dialogue, Facebook is about as much feed as an average person can handle. FF/Twitter are downright manic for them and they don't have/don't want the mental faculty to deal with the multiple perpetual conversations/topics - it creates more anxiety than fun and if it's not fun it's toast. Neither will get double digit % of the population using them - Bob
OTOH, is text messaging considered mainstream yet in the U.S.? (I realize we lag way behind the rest of the world in this.) I don't think the "mainstream" can handle more than one technological breakthrough at a time :) I still know people who are even just getting used to using a computer. - Victor Ganata
@Bob I think Twitter is so powerful that it can be used for many different purposes. Imagine a multi-dimensional Twitter with single or more refined services. For local councils, government, media companies, business services, geeks, gossip, etc. Each with their own customised Twitter serving their needs. This is where Twitter will produce an income stream; hiving itself off into customized services, without the noise. - Chris Loft
i dont think it is a "we dont want it to go mainsteam" it is more of a "the technology isnt quite ready for it to go mainsteam, we couldnt handle all our friends and family and colleagues nattering on our feeds, we can barely handle the information flow at the moment". We need better filtering, a better way to have several spheres in parallel on these services. - Joelle Nebbe
(translating my previous comment in pragmatic speech:) I am happy to have all that crowd happily segragated on facebook sending each other quizzes, i dont want them coming on my FF and twitter. I love them to bits but they are, well, embarrassing! I don't want "what peanut character are you" on my friendfeed, and it will come with the mainstream - Joelle Nebbe
hmmm, this bubbled up so I re-read it. man, that was a great old post - Sarah Perez
By old you mean 9 weeks, right Sarah? :-) - Louis Gray
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Paul Buchheit posted a message
“How does Google decide to show this search box?”
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6 hours ago - Link
guessing it's not through an official relationship w/ sfgate as their own search is powered by yahoo. - James Miao
It's actually slightly misleading as it just does a site:sfgate.com on Google. When I first saw it I thought that it would send you to their site using OpenSearch or something. Searching Google is probably better though since most sites don't have good search of their own. - Paul Buchheit
Many big sites have a search box like this one. http://skitch.com/zest/7w88/ro... - Larry Hudson
Judging by http://googleblog.blogspot.com... it's "when [Google] detect[s] a high probability that a user wants more refined search results within a specific site. Like the rest of [Google's] snippets, the sites that display the site search box are chosen algorithmically based on metrics that measure how useful the search box is to users." Not that that explains much of the how. - Scott from Canada
google is sure getting clutter and featureitis - i dont want all these gimmicks i just want a good efficient search. Not getting it anymore. - Joelle Nebbe
Probably there are more conditions: 1) the query is navigational (e.g.: [youtube]); 2) the query is popular; 3) there are many query refinements (e.g.: [youtube u2]) - Ionut
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The Life Scientists: Maureen posted a message
“Who is going to bail out US science? It doesn't seem to be on the radar, and everyone is lining up for money.”
8 minutes ago - Link
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Louis Gray posted a message on Twitter
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“I'd love to be able to see what posts of mine have been liked, not just a count of how many things have been liked by my top likers. (I know, it's not a word, but I can't think of a better way to express the idea.)”
14 hours ago - Link
It'd be great to have this, because then I can see what people like about me and my thoughts, which will help me avoid things that show off the lamer side of me. - Chris Charabaruk
popular? ;o) - Rob Sellen
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. I can see how many likes my stuff gets... - Mattie Kenny
Mattie, I think Chris means without having to scroll through your whole feed. A link that would display only the posts that received "Likes". Maybe ffholic does this? - Laura Norvig
Laura: Does ffholic do this? I've not played with it (yet). - Chris Charabaruk
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Shellee posted three messages on Twitter
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FriendFeed Feedback: Tanath posted a message
“Unsupported feeds shouldn't be called blogs. That's a baseless assumption which is often untrue.”
Tuesday at 3:43 pm - Link
Agreed. - Kevin Fox
Definitely! - Evan Sims
And actual blogs should be separated from other unsupported feeds (and each other, for granular control). - Jandy Stone
just call them feeds and give us an option to choose the icon for them ;) - Christian Van Der Henst
I'm thinking "feeds" too. And why not import the site's favicon? - Tanath
agreed - Dave Winer
Why do we have to specify the service that the feed belongs? FF should recognise the service automatically. Also I agree that actual blog feeds should be separated from unsupported ones and something has to be done about the icons. - endiaferon
Ideally FriendFeed should have an XML namespace with an element that specifies the verb, noun and service to use on the feed. - Bruce Lewis
Bruce, I think that'd be overkill. - Carlo Zottmann
@Carlo It only sounds like overkill. I doubt it would be much to design and implement on FF's side of things. - Chris Charabaruk
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Louis Gray posted an entry on The Gray Effect
LOLMatthew: How You Doin'?
17 minutes ago - Link
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Louis Gray shared an item on Google Reader
1 hour ago - Link
awww, how cute!! - Sarah Perez
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Michael Nielsen bookmarked a page on delicious
3 hours ago - Link
"In Book VI of The Annals, Tacitus describes how runaway mortgage lending, combined with government meddling with interest rates and loan terms resulted in a credit crunch and an eventual collapse in real estate prices. All of this happened in A.D. 32 during the reign of the Roman Emperor Tiberius. " - Michael Nielsen
Google Reader
Louis Gray shared an item on Google Reader
2 hours ago - Link
Darn. We make widgets! - techPR
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(@){ posted a message
“"I perceived him as dangerous to our code base" - tavi”
17 minutes ago - Link
context: reminiscing about interview candidates - (@){
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Louis Gray posted an entry on louisgray.com
Exclusive Interview With the Woman Behind @BritneySpears
2 hours ago - Link
Post by Jesse Stay: http://www.friendfeed.com/jess... (Great interview!) - Louis Gray
The fact that someone has to be behind the @britneyspears account (other than Britney Spears) says a lot. In other news, AT&T says Britney Spears has a landline, although she doesn't answer it directly. Welcome to the new exciting world of social media - Chris White
Jesse - nice interview. She mentioned they picked the top 5 Social Media properties. What would that top 5 look like? - Amani
Actually, it was interesting to see how they approached it. They know they won't get everything right at first, so they are gathering feedback and possibly changing it. Interesting perspective. - Rob Diana
The fact she agreed to the interview I think is great. Very transparent about how the process works, and what benefit this brings to someone who is a household name without a perfect reputation. - Louis Gray
Twitter
Jay Rosen posted a message on Twitter
FriendFeed
FriendFeed Feedback: Marysia posted a message
“My Share on FriendFeed bookmarket no longer works. I've tried draggin it to my toolbar again but get exactly the same. What's going on anybody?”
18 minutes ago - Link
This is what I get when I click on it: javascript:void((function(){var%20e=document.createElement('script');e.setAttribute('type','text/javascript');e.setAttribute('src','http://friendfeed.com/share/bo...)) and I get no drop-down window. - Marysia
Netflix
Kevin Fox added a movie to Netflix
Jumper
11 hours ago - Link
I wanted to see this when it came out... but it didn't stay in the theaters very long. Please report back with whether it was worth renting. - Michael Leggett
I enjoyed it. It was a decent action movie. - Ninjitsu Jason Huebel
It's not bad. Hayden's wooden acting brings the film down a bit, but the special effects and action scenes are pretty good. - Ninja Haggis (Sean)
apparently it is pants. was absolutely panned by the critics over here. plus i'm still smarting from HCs contribution to the star wars debacle... - Alex Gawley
@Alex, even if HC was the most gifted actor to walk the earth (which he isn't, for the record), nothing could have saved the giant turd that was Episodes 1, 2 and 3. - Ninjitsu Jason Huebel
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Matt Cutts posted a message on Twitter
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Paul Buchheit posted a link
The fringe movement to keep Barack Obama from becoming president. - By David Weigel - Slate Magazine
6 hours ago - via Bookmarklet - Link
"How did the citizenship rumor get started? Ironically, it began when the Obama campaign tried to debunk some other conspiracies. After Obama locked up the nomination in early June, low-level talk radio and blog chatter peddled rumors that Obama's real middle name was Muhammad, that his father was not really Barack Obama, and that he was not really born in Hawaii. The campaign released a facsimile of Obama's certificate of live birth. Requested from the state in 2007, the certificate reported that Obama was, indeed, born in Honolulu at 7:24 p.m. on Aug. 4, 1961. The certificate was a bullet that didn't put down the horse." - Paul Buchheit via Bookmarklet
I've aggregated my set of completely slanted news articles here: http://www.jeteye.com/jetpak/c... - bill giltner
Obama is a proxy for more bad government, and was / is a "trojan horse" as a candidate. I was one of the many who thought he was better than Hillary. Now it's not so clear. The lies about his birth, and his forged selective service compliance document shows the lack of compunction to do whatever it takes to maintain control by the elites who are responsible for covering up what happened on 9/11, and controlling what is basically a "shadow govt." in the US. - bill giltner
I love the fringe elements that FF somehow attracts. - Christopher Sacca
Christopher. I understand well that many, possibly 99% of those reading this will think I qualify for the nut house. For those who don't, please join this room: http://friendfeed.com/rooms/9-... - bill giltner
on evidence since the election, primarily his appointments, i'm with bill - Gregory Lent
"The state of Hawaii's official statement that the certificate was legitimate didn't make a dent—after all, who is Registrar of Vital Statistics Alvin Onaka to argue with Techdude?" - Clare Dibble
Ha! The sheeple that think Obama was born in America are probably the same ones that think Bush had nothing to do with 9/11, the US landed on the moon, and the government isn't hiding extraterrestrials. - Gabe
I'm at a loss to tell the difference between young earth creationists and "truthers" and the loony Obama conspiracy folks. I guess there has to be room for excessively gullible people in a society. - Jeff Jones
FriendFeed
Paul Buchheit posted a link
5 hours ago - via Bookmarklet - Link
"As for social disruption, Hanauer gave a quick summary of what he meant: —If everyone thinks it’s a great idea, it probably sucks. —If people understand it, you’re too late. —If people don’t like it and don’t understand it, it probably still sucks. So entrepreneurship is a dangerous field, he said. “The difference between being an idiot and being a genius is very, very thin.”" - Paul Buchheit via Bookmarklet
Something I've noticed: new Internet companies and products which precede their release with a wave of publicity and hype almost always fail. Google just quietly put their product out there, and it was so good that word of mouth pushed it to global preeminence. Don't tell me about your product -- show me your product. And it had better hit me between the eyes in under a few minutes, otherwise, next. - Sean McBride
By the way, I found this post with Google Reader, and almost certainly would have missed it on Friendfeed. - Sean McBride
I found it on Friendfeed. - Jason Wehmhoener
Amazon was the first real real e-commerce business? Really? I get the feeling he doesn't understand why his own product succeeded. Amazon integrated user generated content and community into product recommendations. That's what made them different. There were many large bookstores on the net before Amazon. - todd
Gmail/Google Talk
Jim Norris updated their status message on Gmail/Google Talk
“stupid pickles”
10 hours ago - Link
again?! - Private Sanjeev
??? - Anne Bouey
Do many people use pickles? I know that mailman does. In my opinion I would rather use plaintext or a database. What is the advantage of a pickle? - Robert Felty
Pickles taste good. - Amit Patel
The advantage of a pickle is that it is preserved. That way it can be eaten well after the harvest. - Gabe
Twitter
Bora Zivkovic posted 12 messages on Twitter
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Paul Buchheit posted a link
7 hours ago - via Bookmarklet - Link
"You can now initiate payments via twitter. For example, tweeting "p @ev $1 because twitter is fun" would send $1 from your Tipjoy account to @ev." - Paul Buchheit via Bookmarklet
So, how discrete is it? Everytime I send money, the whole world sees it, or works like d? - Nikos Anagnostou
Easier way! Wish it be an alternative to service like paypal. - K.D.
Nikos, it appears that you can set the visibility. I'm experimenting with it right now. http://bit.ly/BH5n Seems like an interesting concept but I wonder how much one can actually earn. It looks like top sites have gotten just over $100. But I did see Techcrunch with $629. - Jauder Ho
micropayments are totally the future, they will support blogs, twitter, many many things ... asia is waaaayyy ahead on this, but in america the credit card companies pose a problem, their cost of transaction is toooooooo high - Gregory Lent
@Nikos It isn't private yet, but soon we'll parse d messages like 'd username p $5' which the recipient will receive as a DM. @Jauder most of TC's tips came from our other widgets: http://tipjoy.com/banners - Ivan Kirigin
@Gregory I couldn't agree more - Ivan Kirigin
Gregory is right on the money. - Sean McBride
FriendFeed
FriendFeed Feedback: dekay posted a message
“I want a new button on FF: WTF?”
23 hours ago - Link
Shouldn't that be WTFF? - John Craft
Yes, WTFF...LOL - Internet Strategist
Instead of Like it could be "FTW" and then there could be an "WTF" button too. - Laura Norvig
How about LOL - ROFL - WTF - NSFW - DNL - BBQ - FTW? j/k - AJ Batac (ninJA)
FriendFeed
Paul Buchheit posted a link
“I Fell In Love With A Female Assassin”
6 hours ago - via Bookmarklet - Link
"Watching her take the pistol from her belt, unbutton her jeans and slip into bed I somehow couldn’t quite equate the woman in my arms with the bodies I had seen in the local morgue, their heads shattered by gunshots at close range, murders she confessed to having committed. High on a combination of the heady tropical climate, local rum, grade A cocaine and in the arms of nubile 22-year-old, fantasy and reality became blurred. It felt like I was living in a Quentin Tarantino movie." - Paul Buchheit via Bookmarklet
fascinating - Rahul Deodhar
intense - Deva Hazarika
Great story, and for someone with such a short attention span I'm glad I stuck with it. - Toby Graham
"“When I killed the first person, I was afraid, I was scared. I killed the first person just to see if I could. But there is an obligation to kill. If you don’t, they kill you. That’s why the first was very hard, because the person I killed was kneeling down begging, crying and saying, ‘Don’t kill me. I have children.’ That’s why it was difficult and sad. But if you don’t kill that person, someone else from the AUC will kill you. After the killing, you keep trembling. You can’t eat or talk to anyone. I was at home, but I kept imagining the person begging not to be killed. I shut myself inside, but with time I forgot everything. The superiors always say, ‘Don’t worry, that was just the first time. When you kill the second one, it will all be OK.’ But you keep trembling. “The second time is only a bit easier, but as they say here, ‘If you can kill one, you can kill many more.’" - bob
You've got to admit, there's really no profession sexier than assassin! - Gabe
FriendFeed
DeWitt Clinton posted a link
Destructive Koobface virus turns up on Facebook | U.S. | Reuters
1 hour ago - via Bookmarklet - Link
"Facebook's 120 million users are being targeted by a virus dubbed "Koobface" that uses the social network's messaging system to infect PCs, then tries to gather sensitive information such as credit card numbers." -Jim Finkle, Reuters - DeWitt Clinton via Bookmarklet
This has been going around for a while. Scary indeed. This raises a whole host of issues about abusing the power of "trust" that people develop inside monocultures. In this case, both the Facebook and Windows monocultures, but it would apply equally elsewhere as well. The very conditions make us feel safe (as users, as developers) within closed systems are also vectors for increased risk. - DeWitt Clinton
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