Josh Bancroft

Louis, I'm so glad to see you write that :) - Jason Kaneshiro

Exactly Louis. I started my personal blog just to keep track of my own links and thoughts (i wasn't a fan of delicious). Thanks to it, i've gotten numerous job offers, offers for betas, etc. But i haven't changed my blog's tone one bit. - David Bisset (sn)

Despite a new front page look, does this make Technorati relevant and trusted again? That's the major question for me. - Louis Gray

Yeah, Technorati kind of ceased to be relevant a long time ago. Half the time, I couldn't even get their site to load. They've lost the plot. Maybe they can get it back, but I've already moved on. - Josh Bancroft

same here Louis - when you focus on the exterior when it's the interior that needs the work, the situation remains the same - Allen Stern

meh. - Warner Crocker

I confess, Technorati lost me when it became clear that their algorithm for ranking was so weighted toward a) tech and b) bloggers who gamed links back and forth. I haven't missed it, honestly. - Karoli

That will happen, after Apple wrings all the cash it can out of ATT. - Phil Boiarski

Good for Wal-Mart, good for i-Phone, good for the country. We do not need unlocked phones with tekkies clogging the waves with gadgets. Proprietary software rules. - Prokofy Neva

We can't really expect to see a cheap AND unlocked phone. Do you think Apple's costs on the iPhone are less than $99 per unit? Less than $199 or $299? Even if they sold a ton of them at $99, they'd be selling them at a loss without being locked to a carrier. Contracts and subsidies are the reason most cell phones are so cheap. Remember the first gen iPhone, at $499 and $599? No subsidy. You can actually buy an unlocked iPhone 3G from AT&T for about $500. They need to get their money out of you somehow. - Josh Bancroft

Wait, ATT offers an -unlocked- iPhone, or is it a no-plan-required-at-purchase phone? That's news to me if it's actually unlocked. - abacab

And none of this precludes carriers from offering subsidies with contracts anyway. - abacab

abacab, when the iPhone 3G was announced, it was stated that AT&T would sell an unlocked (not just "no contract required") iPhone, for (I think) $499, sometime "after the launch". I don't know if it's available yet, or if it's available online, but it should be. Try asking about it in an AT&T store. I'm looking for a link, but can't find anything now... - Josh Bancroft

I always understood that to be a "no contract required" offering they'd bring out later, not an actually unlocked iPhone. I'll ask, but I'm betting my local ATT store flunkies have no idea. :( - abacab

lovely Prok, proponent of all-things-proprietary... Software is like sex: it's better when it's free. Linus Torvalds. - silpol

unlocked phones can be even 4 times cheaper, the only problem - carriers don't want them... yes, they want your arm and leg, and Apples stays with them, not with you :) don't trust my words - go search for unlocked phones ;) - silpol

Abacab, I distinctly remember they were going to offer a "no contract" phone for something like $399, and an actual "unlocked" phone for $100 more. - Josh Bancroft

I just can't ignore this, sorry. - Mohomed=genieyclo

ignoring - pea♥ fierce as a woozle

Duly ignored. - Mark VandenBerg

Ok. - Carmen

Oh geez. Come on guys -- get a life! :-) - Dave Winer

Who keeps those in stock? - MiɳiMagɘ (AlwaysMiniMage)

lmao!! :o) good one! - Rob Sellen

this life you speak of, would i have to pay for that because there's a recession going on, you know. - pea♥ fierce as a woozle

*collapses into a puddle of laughter* - MiɳiMagɘ (AlwaysMiniMage)

ignoring this one too! - Susan Beebe (Santa Claus)

I like pie. - Orphan Spinster Librarian

My cat's breath smells like cat food. - Josh Bancroft

Now Josh we didn't really need to know that, did we? - Dave Winer

Comparing one's future revenue model to that of Google's success is akin to every hardware company in the Valley comparing themselves to Cisco. - Louis Gray

We talked about it this AM on FF, check it: http://friendfeed.com/e/cbc05e... - anna

believe twitter,bless twitter! - suso

bah... there are better phones out there than the iphone. show me the iphone mk 3 or 4.... - Terry O'Fee

There are two phones in this world : ones with good cameras and ones with 2 mega pixel camera? - Alastair Montgomery

@Alastair, almost all the photos on my SmugMug were with the iPhone. http://friendfeed.com/louisgra... Look great to me! - Louis Gray

@Louis, true they aren't bad but when most other cell phones passed the 2MP barrier a while back seems a bit of a lapse to me. One thing we can thank the iPhone for is raising the design bar for other cell phones. - Alastair Montgomery

I dont call something a phone unless it is used 50% or more as a phone. - Joelle Nebbe

The appeal of the iphone camera is not in quality but in immediacy. A proper camera takes proper pictures. An iphone shares pictures on the internets, location and all - without hassle. Companies would stop marketing specs and features to us if only people would stop being guided by them. If only "users" would take a moment to observe their own actual use of those feature ridden devices. - Alexander Kohlhofer

@Alexander, I thought you couldn't send pictures over MMS with the iPhone, doesn't sound like easy sharing to me? - Alastair Montgomery

It's about software. S60 reminds me of Windows 3.1. Add a fat processor and graphics card, you're still using a clunky interface. - Rodfather

Am I the only one who actually likes using S60? - Tyson Key

The new lineup of phones from Nokia, Samsung, and Sony devices can do all iPhone does and in some area's with better specs.. and Android is not a phone, it's a platform ;) ..only thing Apple does better then the others is marketing and creating a hype around thin air. - Pascal

How many people use there 'real' 6-8 MP cameras on full quality? I would venture that most drop the 'quality' to save memory and drop the resolution to somewhere equivalent to a 2-3 MP camera anyway (not all you tech bloggers of course). The main issue with the iPhone is the lack of video, which is becoming more apparent with the uptake of services like qik - Alistair

Once you have used an iPhone or an iPod Touch, Symbian looks so 10 years ago. (I have an E61i) - Zio Bonino

Like Bud guys' said, "True, true..." Same confessions we all had i guess http://tinyurl.com/5o3j3h - Olcayto Cengiz

Are developers excited to write apps for anything other than the iPhone or Android? I don't see anything like Ocarina on other phones. OSX on the iPhone is the most exciting platform I've seen in a long time. - Rodfather

Jobs does not care about developers. Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it. - scott anderson

True dat. The attention to detail And User Experience are light years ahead of the rest of the pack. - vijay

Apple fanboys. They're always good for a giggle.. - Terry O'Fee

@Terry heh - somehow I am managing just fine without one and will continue to do so. I would like an iPod Touch, however. :) - Mattb4rd

I am an Apple fanboy but bought an Nokia N82 recently. Why? Because an iPhone sold by, in my case, T-mobile is not an iPhone yet. I wait till Apple finalises the iPhone and sells the finished product in the Apple store. - Henk de Kruyff

smacks of kool-aid to me; love the iphone, love it but a closed/controlled environment is no way to win if you're confident you're the best; the bulk of people will stick with whatever nokia / the carriers are incentivised to push and first and foremost they want a phone, for now - Bob

Well written argument on how not to be a doofnutt and own a Blackberry( which I do). So I'm a doofnutt, now what happens? Hahah - Terence Washington

I have to admire a man who dares confess his love of the iPhone to those who just can't get past the apple juice. Integration, ease of use, sheer elegance and panache are not appreciated by those with other priorities. Intangibles to personalities not in tune with subtleties. It's the software, stupid. - Phil Boiarski

I'm 28 years old, I have never owned a cell before the iPhone. It us now closer to me than my right hand LoL. - Missile-TOW

Hmm. I think 99% of people I know love the iPhone for the features also found in the Touch. They just don't prefer to carry around a separate phone. They also mostly hate AT&T. Lots of iPhone love, but it's almost entirely for the non-phone-related features they can get with a Touch. Lots of frustration, too, though, mostly phone-related. - abacab

We have an iPod Touch (shared with the wife), and I do like it a lot. We also have cellphones with AT&T. It would be nice to have one less gadget to carry around, so the next time we replace the cellphones it will probably be for two iPhones. - Denton Gentry

Meh. I love my Android G1. It does everything I need and then some. And it has a better camera than the iPhone (at least we can do macro photography without having to buy a special case with a lens enhancement), we can type more easily on the full keyboard, and we have a nice trackball to make fat-fingering a lot harder to do. You can keep the iPhone and AT&T (AT&T is the main reason I didn't get one before the G1 came out). I'm happy with my Android. - Lindsay Donaghe

I am loving my iPhone - my new office phone (plugged in of course)... awesome! - Susan Beebe (Santa Claus)

Flash News: The World != The US. That said, I'd not take any phone which won't let me develop for it without paying someone else. - Yuvi (has IRL friends!)

I ditto everything Lindsay just said, especially the part about AT&T =P - Stupid Ninja (aka Tina)

With all of the things my iPhone does not have such as a high quality still and video camera, digital compass, background notifications for all my apps (especially Facebook and Google Talk) and maybe a digital TV and radio tuner, I still don't care for any other phone. I show it to friends and family and they are instantly sold. The latest update by Google Maps for public transit is just killer. - Rolf Schewe

I loved the post, and totally understand...for me it's more important to get quality out of what I could create with an N97, than the quality of the phone itself when I demonstrate it to people...but that's a fairly unusual perspective by the looks of things...I like the iPhone, but would love N97 functionality with it! - Badger Gravling

Others may not agree with my conclusion, but every time I see a "non-iPhone" now, I know people are selling themselves short. And every time there are new applications developed for the platform, Apple's lead gets bigger. - Louis Gray

I stopped in to a Verizon store to try out the Storm. I walked out about 30 seconds later thinking the exact same thing... there's 2 phones. iPhone and not iPhone. - Fraser

@Fraser: I haven't had a chance to try out the Storm yet. What did you not like about it? - Jay

after a while you start to see the same arguments go by over and over again. why a portable isn't as good as a desktop. why a laptop isn't as good as a portable. why a notebook isn't as good as a full-sized laptop, etc. ad infinitum, ad nauseam. - Karim

I don't understand why the Arrington's article was posted now.. Maybe 6 months ago, but now? Sounds like there's money wanting to be made. - Rodfather

Love - Robert Scoble

Love - Sally Church

ya'all are killing me today - Allen Stern

That's wrong. Site visits isn't what should be important to bloggers. It's readers that matter and bloggers should publish via any means possible to reach as many readers as possible. Like any business, the customer is always right so however readers want the content is how bloggers have to publish and it's the bloggers' responsibility to figure out how to monetize their mediums. - ·[▪_▪]·

Love!!! - Jeff P. Henderson

<sarcasm>yea cassette tape - you are 100% right</sarcasm> - Allen Stern

Love - Bibi

Love. - Charles LePage

Love. - Joey Gibson

Love - Joe Dawson (beta)

Ich liebe. - Alberto Gonzalez via twhirl

I love RSS. :-) - Dave Winer

Love love love - Clarence Chiang

I thought Dave would.... I do, too. - Bora Zivkovic

Bloggers don't matter as much as their readers. Great content gets response, no matter what subscription method they use. Bloggers who art trying to make a living from selling ad space shouldn't use RSS - and so cut themselves off at the knee... - Robert Worstell

Robert, name one blog that makes money from ads that chose not to "cut themselves off at the knee" by offering RSS, please. - Josh Bancroft

If a blog doesn't have RSS, I'll never go back after my first visit and I'll retain the memory of my bewilderment at their stupidity and uselessness for the rest of my life. How does this make them more money exactly? (RSS love.) - Deborah Fitchett

As a blogger, I love feeds. As a reader, a blog that doesn't provide a feed might as well not exist. - Matthew Gifford

I've been banging on about using RSS for the last 5 years or so. - Ian May

I've been a blogger for over 5 years, and i'd rather get one new subsciber to my feed than a thousand pageviews. - Josh Bancroft

def love, to Josh - you can have email subscribers like an alternative to RSS subscribers - even more narrow circle of friends and professionals - Alexey

Josh: you are right. +1000 - Robert Scoble

Love RSS, of course. - Louis Gray

Ambivalent - manuscrypts

it helps - Olga Rasulova

Je l'aime - Eric Florenzano

Love love love...does that count 3x? - Mark Krynsky

Love, full feed RSS feeds, of course - Colin Charles via twhirl

los amo! - Mariela De Marchi

Love at first sight! - philos

love！！！ - junrxu

I need the Social RSS. - Igor Poltavskiy

i hate those "cut" feeds. sometimes venturebeat does it, and i hate it, 'cause i read my feeds mostly in subway (where i spend about 80 minutes a day). RSS IS FOR FULL FEEDS - Kirill Bolgarov

I love RSS... it's all about the readers... I give the content away anyway... - Aad 't Hart