OMG I remember WordStar! WordPerfect totally kicked it's ass tho... then MS Word killed both despite the fact the WP was actually better than everything else out there - Susan Beebe
Meh on Wordstar. Wordperfect in the late '80's/'early 90's FTW! - Mavericks of Troy, NV!
You betcha. Wordstar was great. Once I moved over to PC and GUI, I used WP for many years. I guess everyone also remembers Function key keyboard templates? Never could use those things :) - JodyC
Yes! It was my first word processing software. - AJ Batac ♘
It was better than a typewriter, and a billion times more intimidating to non-computer literate people. - Pete Delucchi
F5 Directory Listing F7 Print! OMG I still remember those Function keys & the templates! - Susan Beebe
+1 Peter - and that's why it was so great! :) - WorldofHiglet
It was a very tightly-written piece of software. It did a lot with not a whole lot of code. Better yet, there were patches floating around to customize and enhance Wordstar. - Morton Fox
WorldofHiglet, it pissed my mom off to no end. She was all Luddite and stuck to her typewriter afraid of the crazy Wordstar. Now, of course, you can't keep her off the email. - Pete Delucchi
I think I almost used wordstar once...serious - Rahsheen™
I still have a unopened, boxed Wordstar for Windows if you want it. - Eric @ CS Techcast
The one and only advanced editor for my tiny CP/M - Z80 box in the early 80'ies. Inspired me to write my own editor - in assembly... crazy days! - Bo Stern
Kedit or Xedit on IBM VM/SP on IBM 360/370, anyone? ;) - silpol
Wow! Thanks for the passion. I never used it - I went from nroff macros to a THEOS word processor to Microsoft Word for the Mac (with a brief detour to FullWrite Professional), to Word for Windows, skipping Wordstar altogether. - Ontario Emperor
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...but it offended our sense of Mac-ness because of its dot commands and other anti-Mac things. So we switched to FullWrite Professional, which had a true Mac interface... - Ontario Emperor
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Until 1991, I didn't use any Microsoft operating system on a regular basis. From 1979-1991 I used UNIX (on a DEC PDP-11/70), Oasis/THEOS, and the Mac OS. - Ontario Emperor
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1980s? I was learning Excel and Word on the Mac in journalism class. DOS and Lotus in computer science. Probably explains why I chose journalism. - Robert Scoble
Heh. CP/M came with the Commodore 128. - Rodfather
No modern applications in my college classes. My 1979-1980 physics lab included a quarter of Pascal programming. Never used Pascal professionally, though. My only paid programming was HyperTalk (for a HyperCard stack, a help/user manual). - Ontario Emperor
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I used Wordstar too Akiva. And Datastar/Report Star. Microsoft? MS-DOS straight to Windows 1.0. Quatro Pro (Borland) was the best spreadsheet for the PC in the early/mid 80s, and Wordperfect was the preferred word processing software, dBase IV for databases, . While sticking with Windows since the 1.0 version, it was years before I used MS Office applications to any great extent. - JodyC
The first wordprocessor I used with a GUI was the one that came with GEOS for the Commodore. It was slow as hell. - Rodfather
Only if I'm at a concert for a band I really, really like and there's at least a thousand people there that I'll never, ever see again. I go ape wild then. - Pete Delucchi
I've been told that I can. When I have enough drinks in me, I believe that I can. - ::Kristen::
Use to but it's been so long I doubt I can cut the rug like I use too! by cut the rug I mean drop it like its hot! LOL! - BrandyLea Photography
for some reason, I knew you could Carlos. - Monique
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My brother is a professional dancer. Me and him used to practice together...then I discovered computers and the Internets. I can still pop-lock and drop it on that ass though - Rahsheen™
I know how to do most of that stuff, but I think there is a point where you have to say "Wait...I'm a grown ass man...WTF am I doing?" LOL - Rahsheen™
fuck that. you are NEVER too old to get your fucking boogie on. - Monique
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Given some instruction I'm not bad- knew italian jitterbug & other dances from a young age, then learned jazz and a bit of ballet. I love salsa now. Definitely don't dance ENOUGH. - anna
John McCain on debate night tied to chair can probably dance better than me. - Metta (Kamath)
Brandy -- I'll find you a c-walk video when i get home, or you can go to my feed and look at my youtube videos and there is a tutorial there. - Monique
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“Maryam made me give her the remote control upon threat of death. Or worse. Cause? Heroes. Sigh. Of course I handed over the remote control. When Maryam threatens Robert listens! :-)”
“FF spot quiz! Shortly after IBM introduced the first ICM PC's, this company capitalized on it and soon became the fastest growing company in American history (No cheating) ..”
Cute Susan ! Michael and JodyC both got it (see above??) Compaq. Scary part is I remember it :) Nite you guys. Traveling tomorrow, maybe Wednesday .. (Maybe I'll take a picture of Wall St .... ) - Charlie Anzman
I used to have a Packard Bell, which I think got swallowed by Compaq...who then got swallowed by HP? - Rahsheen™
Oh gees Charlie, you're right! LOL at myself what a dumbass!! ha, ha!! Hey enjoy NYC!! lucky!! - Susan Beebe
and therein lies 'part' of what you're experiencing today .... There used to be one or two big deals a week. For the last decade and a half, Wall St has been outright counting on 'deals' to make money. While some were necessary to compete globally, many weren't. The outcome of each merger was a layoff or two, consolidation. and absolutely nothing contributed to the domestic economy. Anyone remember when Northrup bought Grumman and they promised never to leave Long Island? - Charlie Anzman
In the mid-80's my first PC (graduating from CP/M) was the IBM PS/2. I priced a 20mb HDD upgrade, the cost was $8k. As soon as the 80386 came out I bought the Compaq Deskpro, leaving IBM's proprietary hardware behind forever. Compaqs were tanks back then, and the best on the market. - JodyC
Last one - and then I really gotta get some zzz's. We talk about 'early adopters' today. (LG ... are you listening?) There's absolutely no doubt that my fascination with computers and sorta forcing both my daughter and my wife to learn early (my daughter was easy - they had cool games for 386's :) was part of their latter success in life. Food for thought. Nite!!! - Charlie Anzman
The interesting lesson - for speed reasons, IBM deployed an open architecture, while significant parts of Apple computers were proprietary. Which company is still in the personal computer business? - Ontario Emperor
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I'll go with Lotus, it wasn't Microsoft. They didn't get their big growth until the mid-late 80s. - Dave "Maverick" Winer
Ontario, that and DOS and the mouse and the CP/M card for the Apple II, and the languages -- but it really exploded with Windows 3.x in the early 90s. - Dave "Maverick" Winer
Cool stuff Charlie. @Ontario: Windows made M$. The Office apps came later. - Susan Beebe
Ontario - Gates (and company) wrote DOS, the first operating system for the IBM PC, which IBM did not license exclusively. PC-DOS was the IBM version. Shortly thereafter, Microsoft was born and the Microsoft branded MS-DOS appeared. Agree with Dave on the latter explosion. - Charlie Anzman
“I want to start a blog, but I suck at coming up with a starting point. I thought a Wordle on my Friendfeed comments might prove insightful, but I must have done it wrong. I really don't want to write a blog about Robert Scoble. Who the hell is he?”
The best way to start a blog: Scoble is a jerk and here's why.... - Robert Scoble
Robert Scoble IS THE INTERNET!! you must write about him LOL - Susan Beebe
Pete I didn't know we weren't trying to be logical. - Colide81 (James)
Hey Pete, just start the blog. Stop thinking so hard. It's not like you're being graded or anything. Write WTF you want. - Rahsheen™
I find the creative juices stop when I try to force them. Stop looking for whats popular and just talk about the things you like to talk with your buddies about. The wonderful thing about the internet is the sheer massiveness of the user base. There are plenty of people that will like what you have to say. (I don't have the massive experience that others posses but that's what I think) - Geoff Schultz
+10 to Rah I agree. I hate forcing myself into some sort of mold that I have to fit just to write a blog post. Anywho I think over time you will narrow your focus to something. - Colide81 (James)
Geoff that was exactly what I thought the Wordle here was going to provide, but it came out all Robert Scoble, people, just, and iPhone. That isn't what I talk about, but I just can't put my finger on whatever *it* is. I can't be the only one on the internet having trouble finding their voice. - Pete Delucchi
Agree with John, it's a commitment to the country and constitutents first and foremost. - Mo "Killer Bee" Kargas
He shouldn't quit or anything, but he should definitely retire ASAP - Rahsheen™
At this point, his credibility's been shot. He needs to be turned loose. Even the Repubs at that initial bailout meeting with the Pres and Obama stated as such. - Mavericks of Troy, NV!
He should retired because he is old as dirt and he should spend the years he has left chillin out on the beach somewhere. I seriously think he's losing it. - Rahsheen™
I agree, retire. He has exhausted all integrity, shied away from then cozied up to the Republican base only for critical gain, and lets face it, he really is "4 more years of Bush". There's not much left for him. - JodyC
So tired of hearing the "4 more years of Bush" mantra. *rolling eyes* and I'm also tired of the ageism. Maybe I'm sensitive because my dad is 83, strong, has all his wits about him, and could probably take on half of you guys here on FF... - Jasmin Smith
As long as he loses the Presidential election, I don't much care whether he does or not. - Jeff P. Henderson
I'm not hating on McCain simply because he's old. It's because of his behavior. You're right, though. Maybe he has always been slightly off. I shouldn't just assume it's cuz he was at Adam and Eve's wedding reception. - Rahsheen™
Jasmin - the 4 years thing is much easier, and takes up much less space, than listing each and every detail why he should crawl under a rock after a disgracefully run campaign that clearly failed to get people to buy into a plan that differs little from what we've seen the past 8 years. - JodyC
You should retire that scary ass picture, that's for damn sure. - ::Kristen::
I think he and Obama should have both resigned from the Senate as soon as they decided to run for president. At the very least, they both should have resigned when they won their parties' nominations. - Joey Gibson
I don't know why I allow myself to get pulled into these useless political conversations... I'm going to go hang out in the Canadian Politics Room where I belong. Good luck America! and goodnight! - Jasmin Smith
Rahsheen, he just "crashed" the reception :-) - JodyC
“Hypothetical: I have no savings. I have no money. I have a lot of debt and live check to check. Why do I give a rat's ass about this "financial crisis"? My finances have been in crisis for as long as I can remember.”
Because living check to check puts you at the mercy of the economy: if you're job is gone, so is your lifeline... - Stupid Blogger (aka Tina)
There will always be shit jobs where you can work check to check. - Rahsheen™
Because if you live check to check, there will come a time that that will stop. Suddenly. - AJ Batac ♘
The thing is, Rah, if *everyone* is competing for those minimum wage shit jobs then someone's not going to get one. There aren't enough of 'em around. - Stupid Blogger (aka Tina)
I'm assuming it will be first come first serve for fry boy at Mickie D's or bagger at Kroger. Broke people are already first. Whoever comes next will probably be grossly overqualified. - Rahsheen™
no hypothetical here, although I am grateful for my home loan - Josh Haley
I guess my point is, if you basically have nothing to lose at this point...what do you have to fear from this? I watch everybody panicking about the stock market and all that, but I can't even pay my bills so why do I give a crap? I'm hoping whoever I owe money to goes out of business so my debt will disappear...LOL - Rahsheen™
Debt never disappears. Even when wiped out by bankruptcy. Someone is going to try to collect it at some point and time. - Christopher Welle
Is that really what you want? Just to fall back on a shit job because it's there? I'd hope that you have higher expectations than that not just for you, but for your son and HIS future. - ::Kristen::
You miss the point. Fall back on what? Let's say that's where I am right now. Why do I care if a bunch of people who I would consider rich, have lost a bunch of money? - Rahsheen™
You shouldn't care, Rasheen, but the organizations that made these people rich also fed into the livelihood of millions of others as well. I'm not saying it's right, but, as Tina just stated, the give and take of this economy is tenuous, at best. When larger corporations can't pay their bills either, it will affect you, whether you like it or not. - Mavericks of Troy, NV!
Yeah, you should care because if you lose your job and you are on the edge you are looking at losing everything including your financial standing. - Alex "Maverick" Scoble
The "rich people who have lost a bunch of money" are mostly the people who also are employers, in other words. And if the employers shut down the businesses, the jobs disappear. - Mark VandenBerg
Having lived at both ends of the spectrum (twice), Rahsheen ... sounds like you need a good woman to hand the checkbook too .... and kick your ... well you know - Charlie Anzman
Just because someone is grossly overqualified in a situation like that does not mean that someone who is on the short end of the stick will be hired over someone who is overqualified. In a situation where everything deteriorates, it will come down to personal relationships and a demonstration of personal integrity and the quality of one's ability to work. Might not someone who is grossly overqualified might be hired simply because they have a demonstrated ability to work with integrity and loyalty? - Justin Long
Also, speaking from an Asian context, people who live on under $2 a day feel a violent pinch when costs of living spiral upward as a result of economic collapse. That's why they had riots in Indonesia when the price of gasoline doubled, and why the Malaysian party in power lost its control of a couple of states: if fuel costs are too high and you have to choose between fuel and food, there will be trouble. That might not happen soon in America, but if costs of living go up you might not be able to live from - Justin Long
check to check anymore... and then you might be really annoyed. - Justin Long
Based on personal experience Justin: no, I wasn't hired. For over a year, I wasn't hired for openings in my region because I was over qualified for all of them. WalMart, grocery store clerk, I applied for everything and didn't get a one of them because of my education and experience... - Stupid Blogger (aka Tina)
Yes, that was the case with my father at one point too. BUT what I was trying to point out (perhaps badly) was that in the case of a total economic collapse a la the Great Depression, the situation would be vastly different, wouldn't it? - Justin Long
Well, when there's 5 people for every one job, and the job is stocking shelves, I'm guessing the guy who's stocked shelves before gets the job... - Stupid Blogger (aka Tina)
Also possible the cousin or the nephew or the brother or the friend or whatever of the employer will get the job??? Course my scenario is a worst case which is not what Rahsheen was talking about. I think the typical person in the street will worry or not, depending on their temperament, but right now it probably won't affect them. The problem is, if they don't care and don't watch out (maybe even if they do) it will affect them before they can do anything about it. Which is why we need government to care. - Justin Long
If you don't mind living on the street or living off of others, you probably wouldn't care. - ·[▪_▪]·
People are already choosing between gas and food. People are already afraid that they won't be able to find AND afford gas in order to get to work in the first place. Also, I seriously doubt any sane manager is going to hire an ex exec-type to drop fries. They just don't have the same manageable mentality as someone who has never done it or has already been doing it :) - Rahsheen™
Pride is almost a good answer, but it's irrelevant. We are not talking about intentions, we are just talking about where people are RIGHT NOW as this crisis is occuring. - Rahsheen™
I have no savings to speak of, Rasheen. I'm also not investing anywhere, and my firm doesn't offer a 401(k). I have an IRA with 200 dollars in it. I owe $3,500 in car payments, I share a 206K mortgage with my husband and I have maybe $15.00 on a credit card. I may not owe a lot of money compared to others posting on this, but while I do like my job, it bothers me that I may be stuck without options, should things get any worse. Meanwhile, people in my neighborhood are wandering around as if - Mavericks of Troy, NV!
My little 401k took a huge crap. I think. See, I don't even know. And most people don't. Like the door to door thief on The Fifth Element once said: "GIMME THE CASH-SH-SH-SH!!" - Josh Haley
Why? Because if your employer has to tighten its belt because of the financial crisis, you could have no job. And if you didn't have a job, and if yoir government can't float bonds, you might have no benefits. And if your church's contributions tank, you might have no hope. - Ontario Emperor
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The reason that overqualified people don't get hired for minimum wage jobs is because the employer knows those will be the first people to bolt when a better job comes along. - Cyndy
I'd follow Julia Roy's suggestion and ping Guy with mrontemp, but I don't think he has a category for "everything including the kitchen sink." Perhaps some of the Empoprises stuff may fit, though... - Ontario Emperor
From the page: "the use of John Glenn as a surrogate makes Team Obama especially hypocritical in raising the Keating scandal. If Glenn is clean, then so is McCain. If McCain is tarnished, then so is Glenn. Obviously, Glenn helps Obama in Ohio, so Obama has no real complaint over the Keating 5 scandal that outweighs his desire to win the election. Like so much of Obamaâs reform rhetoric, his faux outrage over the Keating 5 scandal shows him as nothing more than a poseur." - Ontario Emperor
While "exonerated" is being bandied about, it's probably too strong a word for what truly happened. They both had "minimal involvement" in the scheme, but they were involved. If you follow Wikipedia's gradations, Cranston (reprimanded) was the worst of the bunch, followed by Riegle and DeConcini ("acted improperly"), then Glenn and McCain. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K... - Ontario Emperor
Glenn and McCain weren't really the major people in the case. DeConcini arranged the meetings, and Cranston is the only one who got reprimanded. - Ontario Emperor
Thanks for the smiley but if you think McCain or Glenn were not involved, you need to review the case facts again. McCain and Glenn had a very central roles in the scandal. They were definitely part of bullying the regulators and getting Keating what he wanted in return for huge amounts of money. They were lucky not to have gotten charged with anything. The fact that they were even slightly involved in this matter speaks volumes about their character. - Charles
From the page: ""You don't get introduced by John Glenn every day," Bruce Springsteen said, breaking into an impromptu version of Mr. Spaceman.
The Ohio State University campus was in a festive mood yesterday as the rock legend performed a seven-song, solo acoustic set on behalf of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama. " - Ontario Emperor
From the page: "Hours after Glenn introduced the Boss at the Obama rally, the Obama campaign launched a campaign attacking McCain for his Keating Five activities. They made no mention of Mr. Glenn." - Ontario Emperor
25% correct. The report goes into great detail on McCain, mentions DeConcini, and doesn't mention Cranston (the one who WAS reprimanded), Riegle, or Glenn at all. Hmm, wonder why Obama didn't specifically mention John Glenn? - Ontario Emperor
maybe McCain/Palin aren't meant for mainstream ... - tj hanton
I mean, even their campaign is going negative. - Victor Ganata
Check this 2007 Arizona Republic story about McCain and the Keating scandal. http://www.azcentral.com/news/... Not a whitewash in my opinion, but it does lay out the complete story, pros and cons. - Ontario Emperor
Maybe a bit of SNL to go with your Colbert report? - Lorraine Ball
Because it's when he actually did something worth talking about. - Cathy Brooks
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Interesting considering Palin just finished scolding Biden for talking about McCain's past ... - tj hanton
I'm ready for the expose of Obama in the sixties - Obama stayed up late and watched the Monkees past his bedtime! - Ontario Emperor
Wish they would talk about the 'close' relationship Obama & Ayers had as board members for the Chicago anti-poverty group. What's McCain going to say next, that this group was a terrorist cell? Absolute non-sense. - Jim McCusker
This would be especially deadly since my phone is set to auto-answer when my bluetooth headset is on. I don't plan on taking calls in the middle of an interview... - Ontario Emperor
Unless it's one of the super swanky Jawbone models...they make everyone look cool! - Alex "Maverick" Scoble
I can't get the clip to fit around my ear anyway. - Morton Fox
And for the love of all that is holy, spit out the damn gum. Why is that so hard to remember? - ♥ pea ♥..!..♥..!..♥
Time for welfare? Not many jobs around! - Igor The Troll
"This report is specific to the Applebee's in Terminal 2 (although I like the airport itself). On a recent business trip, I ate breakfast at the Applebee's. They had problems running my credit card,…" - Ontario Emperor
What makes it even more frustrating is that the bastard just left an insulting comment on my post, after I gave him a chance by not revealing his real name. His comment didn't make it live, but still, it shows that I was too nice. I'm still mulling it over, but I may reveal his full name and his home address, too. - Raoul Pop
If you paid by credit card, or even funded your paypal account with your credit/debit card you can dispute it through them and get your money back. Paypal does not fight credit card disputes so it should be relatively easy to get your money back. You were cheated and you need to get your money back. - Jason Shultz
Seriously, for a "new" phone to be in that condition you would have had to take it outside and run over it in your car a couple of times and then drop it in a lake or bay. Even then, it would take a minimum of a week for the phone to come out in that condition! The guy's being dishonest: I hope you get all your money back! - vicster
Interestingly enough, adam81578 had a similar experience with a buyer back in 2006. "Sold me a USED item as new. Had many excuses. Beware" Adam's response: "IT IS BRAND NEW ...she can't set it up to receive ringtones or internet BEWARE" - Ontario Emperor
From the page: "(Frankly, I thought that even the charges against Alan Cranston were overblown. The real criminals in the S scandals were the Bush family.)" - Ontario Emperor
From the page: "If Barack Obama is so outraged at John McCainâs involvement in the Keating Five scandal, why is John Glenn, another Keating Five member, doing surrogate work for Obama? " - Ontario Emperor
Agreed. If he had been smart, he could have nipped this in the bud in an hour by going over the chronology, what he did, what he didn't do. - Ontario Emperor
As a Republican, I agree that it does raise valid questions, especially considering what has happened over the last few weeks. However, Obama is only presenting 20% of the story. - Ontario Emperor
OE I haven't watched the documentary on the site yet, it's on my to do list for the next hour or so. Rather anxious to see it and then read - Erin Kotecki Vest
I've only seen the 30 second preview myself. - Ontario Emperor
