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ha3rvey posted a message

“I'll tell you a secret: If you call the helpdesk at 5:00 and 20 seconds, I will make fun of you while I don't answer your call.”

July 25 at 3:04 pm - Link

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I used to do that...LOL - ♫ Rahsheen ™ ★

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That is so messed up. - Kenya

Right-o, Simon. - Urban Thought Collective

If you call the Help Desk at all, I will not pick up (unless my manager forces me to cross-train again, and I still won't do it for long). I'm a field tech, because I do not want to answer phones, thank you. - MiɳiMagɘ (AlwaysMiniMage) via NoiseRiver

MiniMage, I was a field tech until my manager "reorganized" the team. I told my team lead, "You know I'm leaving, right? I've led a tech support team larger than this entire IS department, and you want me to take calls from people who don't know how to make text bold in MS Word?" I'm feeling a lot of resentment about this gig. Good news is, I turned in my resignation on Wednesday. - ha3rvey

Wow Harvey.. .. thats pretty crazy. Whoever did the reorg is an idiot. BiG idiot. TSG (Tech support group ) fieldops, can NOT be told to sit and take calls in an office. Talent management is an art !! Hope that all works out for you.. - Peter Dawson

Sounds like you're making some positive changes for yourself Harvey. Some things just don't work out. Good luck with whatever is coming next! :-) - Jill, Superhero Librarian

@Harvey Simmons (ha3rvey): Wow, and I got mad about their adding time clocks to the list of devices we support. I'd prefer to leave my bed to reboot a time clock in the middle of the night rather than answer phones any time of the day. - MiɳiMagɘ (AlwaysMiniMage) via NoiseRiver

I had a remote user who emailed support the other day about some sort of symantec error - I asked exactly what the error message said - and the response was "a bunch of garbage I don't understand" - Jeff Quinton

I pick it up, and sometimes, but not often, regret it. Sometimes I still pick it up at 5:15. Sometimes I get lavish praise for my availability. But not from my wife. ;) - John LeMasney

Veronica shared an item on Google Reader

Would You Stick This Fellow in Your Garden?

July 25 at 2:32 pm - Link

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If I had a garden, yes. - Veronica

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Braaaaaaaaains! - Vincent X

Yes. And Thriller would somehow be involved. - Urban Thought Collective

I am waiting for him to show up in a graveyard at Halloween for a teen prank to scare the girls. - Jim Sewell

Brrrrrrrrrroccoli! Brrrrrrrrrroccoli! - Jason Huebel

You bet I would. I'm trying to come up with a way to make one myself - I love Design Toscano's stuff but can't afford it. - Karen Mohler

yea I would, when Haloween is around - Imran Hussain via feedalizr

Now that would be a cool Halloween yard decoration!! - Jeff P. Henderson

If a had a outside garden it will be nice, to keep people away from my garden! - Jorge

I'm not sure what my homeowner's association would think. :-( - Courtney McGough

Veronica bookmarked a page on delicious

Rocky Horror Picture Show to Be Remade | Jim Sharman, Lou Adler, MTV | BuzzSugar - Movies, TV, Music.

July 25 at 1:18 pm - Link

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I don't know how I feel about this. - Veronica

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Some things just should not be remade. - Jeff L. via twhirl

You can't... you can't remake a classic. :( - l0ckergn0me

I want to know why someone thought this was a good idea. - William Thresher

Oh come on, they can't remake this! This is like remaking Coca-cola! And we know what happened when they did that! - Les Zaldor

anything to make a buck Will. - Jeff L. via twhirl

They already tried a sequel - Shock Treatment! - Bill Sodeman

Doesn't RHPS get remade all the time in various stage shows? - James Williams (willia4)

It used to get remade every midnight showing, when they had midnight showings - Michael W. May via twhirl

MWM Bingo - Mark Forman

James - that's different!! this is a new film remake... i don't know, it's just different. - Veronica

I think RHPS would be better on the stage. And as far as the remake goes, do any of you folks still go to Rocky regularly? Maybe it's time for a new generation to have that experience... - Jason Wehmhoener

I think I'm a purist here. How could they do any better with film? - W!cKeD

I forgot about Shock Treatment. That was terrible! - William Thresher via twhirl

Am I the only one here who hasn't seen it? - Vincent X

While I kinda cringe at any film project involving MTV, and will probably happily ignore the whole thing and keep sneaking off, trenchcoated, to the theater Friday midnights to see it done the old fashioned way, the article's author does have a point: Alan Cumming as Frank might not be half bad (though I'd probably have to carry my wife home in a wheelbarrow afterwards). - Derrick Burns

If they did manage to get Alan Cumming as Frank, I'd happily tune in, train wreck or no. - Cecily

why? Tim Curry was perfect. Could be interesting but I'll skip it due to already having the great original. Will probably be a train wreck. Especially since nothing is being changed so what’s the point! - michael parks via twhirl

this is just a bad idea as remaking Hairspray. get some originality Hollywood! - Anika Malone

Wait, what? Are the writers striking again, that a studio must trespass on sacred ground? - Urban Thought Collective

Eric Rice posted a link

frogConcept: A Digital Escape / News / frog design

July 25 at 1:59 am - via Bookmarklet - Link

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Anyone have a fire extinguisher? I smell chrome burning. - Urban Thought Collective

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I just love this the more I see it <3 - Eric Rice

Is this the thing where it's an immersive VR mask? I think i shared this a while back. I think it's friggin' awesome, but then I'm first in line for the datajack. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

oooh see pollution isn't all bad. Get to wear cool looking gear. - Bjorn Tipling

That is so awesome. - Candace Holly

ok so who here is on the waiting list for the EPOC from emotiv.com.. i am, only cuz i want to seriously drive my segway by *thinking* annnd yes i wear myvus.. i'm trying to get this nokia + myvu thing fleshed out so i can do augmented reality on an island in the caribbean in september. - Eric Rice

hey mel - Eric Rice

BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAINS - Eric Rice

Phil Yanov posted a message on Twitter

“The average pencil is seven inches long with just half an inch of eraser. Is that optimism or arrogance? (I use a pen.) http://bit.ly/27O7E4”

July 25 at 6:58 am - Link

Neither. It's like the discrepancy between hotdogs and hotdog buns: a nefarious, cyclical need. That, or I *really* wanted to find an excuse to use the word "nefarious." - Urban Thought Collective

Robert Scoble shared an item on Google Reader

Sales of Nokia’s low-cost Phones Increasing

July 24 at 11:14 pm - Link

I still have my old Nokia. No fancy mobile web, sadly. I'm too rough on portables, but a cheap Nokia? I can drop that sucker in a bucket of soapy water, fish it out, drop it down a flight of stairs ... and it still works. - Urban Thought Collective

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@Jesse Uhm, no, but now I pretty much have to... - Urban Thought Collective

Those low-cost phones can do some smart things, especially if part of a mesh of smarter devices. - Bernie Goldbach

Economy is driving a lot of pay-as-you-go. Nokia is huge in that market with Tracfone, Net 10 and others. Just a guess but (example) Wal-Marts have racks of them in almost every prepaid brand - Charlie Anzman

I deleted that comment, sorry... I don't want to come up on some FBI watchlist - Jesse Fornear

Cell phones cause cancer btw. Breaking: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg... - Jesse Fornear

Justin Yost shared an item on Google Reader

Anti-Terrorism Stupidity at Yankee Stadium

July 24 at 7:15 pm - Link

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w t f ...... - Mona N.

That's idiotic. So someone like my little sister who has albinism and would probably need to keep extra sunscreen handy all the time would just be SOL because of this. What's wrong with people? - Kamilah Gill

UPI (http://tinyurl.com/63f738) says the Yankees reversed this policy, and will allow sunscreen (except in aerosol cans). Bad PR about sunburnt babies and fair-skinned fans beat sports-team greed in a rare upset. - Dave Pelland

Sunscreen? What could I do with a bit of sunscreen? What MacGuyver-esque tom-foolery could I accomplish? - Urban Thought Collective

Jason Toney posted a link

The Black Snob: They Don't Call It "Leader of the Free World" For Nothing

July 24 at 7:27 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link

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"Seriously. If Barack loses this thing, I swear ... I call shenanigans." - Jason Toney via Bookmarklet

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it's all up to florida! - Mona N.

If it's up to Florida, we're doomed. - David Worrell

Good gravy, that's a lot of bodies. - Urban Thought Collective

Jason++ - ♫ Rahsheen ™ ★

The news tonight had a bit on McCain spending this afternoon talking to a crowd in a German-themed bar. McCain fills a German bar, Obama fills Berlin. - David Worrell

Heh actually according to pollster.com 300 electoral votes, 30+ over the 270 to win are firmly on Obama's side, not including Flordia. We don't need no stinking Florida. I used to like McCain...but not anymore. - Bjorn Tipling

I really, REALLY wish McCain had been elected back in 2000. We'd be wishing him a fond farewell. He's a different man 8 years later. - Tad, TV's Patrick Duffy

Yeah McCain of 2000 was better than McCain of 2008. - Bjorn Tipling

Shenanigans. Lol! - Erica Mauter

Were did I see the satire about how the Democratic party is cutting ties with Obama because he actually seems to be trying to win the election LOL> - Earl E Morningwood

Mona N. posted a message on identi.ca

“Pick one: Shut your cakehole or shut your piehole”

July 24 at 7:27 pm - Link

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piehole - David Worrell

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Piehole! - Michelle Marie Miller

i like pie.,,hole - Carlos Ayala

THAT'S what i'm talking about. i'm taking a poll, come on people! Feedback please! - Mona N.

I usually just say "hole" - Outsanity

Piehole. - Urban Thought Collective

Blow... - Johnny Worthington

absolutely, piehole. - Trent Olson

blow?!? whoa... keep 'em comin'! - Mona N.

What about 'Pastry', cover both food items? - Johnny Worthington

Pie... for the reason in my head that cake is too good for people. - Louie

Shut your pastry? LOL um no haha - Mona N.

Pie... tho there are probably more dramatic types of desert you could use... like brulee! - Clay Newton

shut your brulee hole with a raspberry reduction? too soft! - Mona N.

shut your steakhole...? - Mona N.

shut your yap-hole - Johnny Worthington

I only have a piehole... - Tad, TV's Patrick Duffy

Shut your Cherry Cobbler Hole? - Geoff Schultz

cakehole - Adam Turetzky

shut your EFin hole, how's that? - Mona N.

Pie...no..wait..Cake...ah Crap - ♫ Rahsheen ™ ★

shut your crap hole? EEEW hahahah - Mona N.

Death! Errr.. no, wait.. I mean cake! - David Worrell

Piehole- of course! - Steve Isaacs

There is no cake. The cake is a lie. - Bjorn Tipling

*comatose* - Mona N.

I don't have an EF'n hole... :o - Tad, TV's Patrick Duffy

I suggest Lemon Piehole - Majento

piehole - AJ Kohn

With sugar? - Mona N.

piehole - Michael Hocter

chocolate cakehole! - Justin Korn

OMFG WIN!!!! - Mona N.

piehole - Marco (aureliusmaximus)

YES - Mona N.

I don't like pie that much, so that can be shut. - possible248

HATCH shut your hatch! - Mona N.

mmm cake ... - ::Kristen::

Whoa Whoa Whoa possible248 doesn't like pie? :block: (i kid) - Geoff Schultz

omg banana creme -swooooooooon- - Mona N.

Pie holes and pie fights are WIN - Cecil Sandus

Whew, glad nobody brought up corn.... oops. - Alan Cheslow

piehole - Mike Fruchter

piehole! And it's "yer" piehole, not "your" - ha3rvey

trap. - Jill, Superhero Librarian

I do love cake - MiɳiMagɘ (AlwaysMiniMage) via NoiseRiver

shut yer bacon hole! - Mona N.

...baconhole? - l0ckergn0me

Shut your gob (a childhood fav). - Jonathon

Beard Papahole - Rodfather

piehole and wife's vote: piehole, also - Eric Rice

I'd also like to add that I love 'shut your gaping maw' - Eric Rice

I just haven't grown up with pie, but I have fond child memories of cake. :D - possible248

Piehole! - Steven Perez

I like two kinds of pie: hot and cold. - Russellreno

Loic Le Meur posted a message on identi.ca

“follow ericrice”

July 24 at 9:23 am - Link

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uh...is that an order? - Rob Diana

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hahaha, thats what I was wondering. ;) - Roger Kondrat

I hear and obey. - Urban Thought Collective

ahaahahaha it is not supported on identi.ca :) - Loic Le Meur

good think wasn't a "block" - Alberto Escarlate

Robert Scoble posted a message

“What should I learn today?”

July 24 at 8:44 am - Link

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I remember learning to use Adobe Illustrator back in 1989. It is one of those apps that totally changed how I looked at computer graphics. But is there any app today that requires such a steep learning curve? Anyway, in my attempt to make my blog more useful, I'm going to try to learn something new every day. What should we learn together? - Robert Scoble

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I've been trying to figure out how I'm going to fit everything I want to learn into one lifetime.. - Julian Baldwin

What's going to happen tomorrow. - Iain Baker

How to build an IPhone app! - John Duff

Persian Language :D - Mil∂d

Learn the exact color of the sky at sundown. Not just "orange" or "pink" but go through all the colors and find the best matches. Then, we would have an even better description of what colors it is when the sun goes down near our homes. Yes, completely non tech and nothing at all to do with the web but..you asked what we should learn and, everyone can do that. - Candace Holly

Bob- how about XNA Game Studio Express, let's make games? - Ryan

Iain: tomorrow we're going on a photowalk at about noon at San Francisco's Ferry Building with Thomas Hawk. We're also having Buzz Bruggeman on WorkFast.TV at 10 a.m. I hear he'll teach me some new stuff. - Robert Scoble

I'd like to learn Episodic, but it's beta is still invite only. - Brian Ries

Candace: in Half Moon Bay? Easy: gray. - Robert Scoble

The meaning of life. Then share it with the rest of us :) - Tim

Booo! Now look at all the shades of the color and find the names of those shades..I'm sure there's some blues and other colors in there. @Tim; 42 - Candace Holly

Mandrian Chinese - Dan Harbison via Alert Thingy

How to build a flame thrower http://bit.ly/1ca374 - gregory

To exercise your long overdue obligation to mention SEO and Tech Daily :) - Charlie Anzman

why you should add Folksonomy to your blog: http://tinyurl.com/5ugljf - Aziz Poonawalla

If you're going on a photowalk tomorrow, why not catch up on photo blogs. Great post here http://friendfeed.com/e/588492... - Andrew Smith

Learn how to add Disqus to your blog so that you can start responding to comments via e-mail when you're remote? - Robert Seidman

Good call, Dan Harbison. I started Mandarin about 5 weeks ago. Everyday is another challenge and I'm lovin' every minute of it. - Christopher Harley

Robert: I'm scared of Disqus and other centralized commenting systems. I'll discuss that on my blog soon. - Robert Scoble

I think one of the best things to learn these days is how to give back to the community. I find it too often where companies are only interested in themselves and not their employees or customers. Cause marketing should be a key initiative for every company. Not just a monetary donation but get your employees and customers involved. It changes the whole culture in a long-term positive effect. Which cause do you support? - Randy Ksar

what is Google up to with Knol? Also learn all about the new Open-source initiatives, like Bill Katz’s *Bloog* app based on Google App Engine...this is a new GAE based blogging platform http://bloog.billkatz.com/? - Susan Beebe (Santa Claus)

Scoble: I hate to intrude, but any chance I could meet up with you and Thomas tomorrow for the photowalk? I work a few blocks away from the Ferry Building. I've been dying to meet both of you and I can't imagine a better place/way. If not, totally cool, but I thought I would ask :) - Justin Korn

Cuneiform. Then teach me! - Urban Thought Collective

I believe there is a plugin for WP that allows you to respond to comments via email. If there isn't...there should be :) - ♫ Rahsheen ™ ★

Justin: of course! It'll be open to everyone. - Robert Scoble

how to write Greasemonkey scripts! lol, seriously! - Marshall Kirkpatrick

@Randy couldn't agree more. A friend and I had a discussion recently about things he's doing to try to give back more as well as inspire others to do the same and he's also written about it (http://snurl.com/34bd8). Doesn't always have to be the next great wizbang tech gadget to feel good and inspired. - Ron Emrick

how to narrow your focus for a while - Dave Coustan

How to cook something different than what you would usually eat. It's fun, useful and you can blog about it. - Steven Perez

@Robert I think I'm going to print "What should I learn today?" in 72pt type on some nice paper and hang it in my home office. - ha3rvey

Disqus is one of the few programs that scares me, not just figuring out where/how to add the code but also what the consequences might be if I did. Yesterday I finally figured out how to successfully add G Analytics code to Blogger and Typepad for the 1st time, that was tough enough to start. - Sally Church

Sweet! Just realized I didn't contribute to the thread... Learn: I feel we are kind of lingering in web 2.0. What is the next step? What should/is 3.0 going to look like? (edit: Just realized this is probably another thread and not a learn topic...doh!) - Justin Korn

Learn about the semantic web and linked data. That way if you can explain it and deem it worthy, people may listen. - Rob Diana

I'm going to learn about this software later.. .it just came out today. heh http://www.silverbackapp.com - Daynah

all about yahoo searchmonkey - john conroy

learn about something out of your element - Anna Haro

google analytics and how accurate it actually is in determining trafficking trends and weather or not the data can be corrupted or manipulated by hackers and software. - Chris Conway

Learn something non-technical but useful, like how to fix a running toilet or how to change your oil in the car. - Andrew Leyden

Robert -- you should take a well-deserved vacation from learning for a day or two. :) You have one of the most ferociously inquisitive and acquisitive minds for new knowledge I've encountered on or off the net. You're making me feel lazy and sluggish. - Sean McBride

You could learn how to design a satellite using MIT's Open Course Ware courses... http://beta.flowgram.com/f/p.h... - Tony Lopez

How to get like, 50 comments in one hour. Oh wait. You figured that one out. - Josh Haley

oopml or whatever the heck that file is - Gregory Lent

Learn how to edit video. Learn about cinematic composition. Learn about how the best interviewers get the best interviews. Then practice it all with your video capturing passion! - Gib

Slightly different twist on Tony's suggestion, MIT just posted their Toy Product Design course. Explore that with your son (if he would find it interesting) - http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Mech... - Casey

@Andrew - if you don't know those things at your age ... - Ivan Pope via twhirl

Learn to juggle! - Niclas Johansson

That's a great question to ask yourself every day. Sometimes we discover an answer we had never dreamed possible before. Hooray! - Cathryn Hrudicka

Scoble, what did you learn today? I learned about upgrade scripts in the product I'm working on. - Jordan Hofker

l0ckergn0me posted an entry on General

McCain Thinks Iraq Borders Pakistan

July 23 at 7:49 pm - Link

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Yes, well, perhaps he spent too much time on the banks of the Tigris in UPPER NUBIA, if you know what I mean. - Urban Thought Collective

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McCain is a dumbass and so is any person who votes for him in November - Photo Larry via twhirl

the joke is you think a man could have one of the most respected on camera reputations in the world for decades and be a complete moron. I don't buy it. McCain has experience... that means he understands. he changed the world and campaign finance that most Democratic Party members opposed. do you think a moron could of accomplished that? you discredit your p.o.v. when you call your opponent stupid. McCain is simply one of the brightest minds alive - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

A complete moron? No. A momentary moron? Certainly. But by the end of any significant campaign EVERYONE has been a momentary moron a few times. That doesn't make it any less amusing. - Urban Thought Collective

Why John McCain is exceptionally scary: not only is he as uninformed and incoherent about international politics (and everything else) as George W. Bush, but he may be even more violent in his basic instincts than Bush. Check out this video: Viral Video Chart: John McCain's Neverending War http://tinyurl.com/64a5mr McCain has a single message: war, war, war, war, war and more war. He's a tool of the very same neoconservatives who engineered the trillion-dollar disaster in Iraq, - Sean McBride

McCain is the less worse of the two evils winnowed out of the larger pack of hopeful evils. I think I said that right. - Hal Rottenberg via twhirl

Obama=57 states. - "Oldengrey" Tannenbaum

I agree "McCain is the less worse of the two evils" Obama is too manipulative! He will sell his mother to get the job, and he will sell his wife to keep the job! I just do not trust him, period! - Igor The Troll

Jay - what is the most important political issue for you in determining your preference for John McCain? - Sean McBride

he's obviously making a play for the youth vote http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCAT... - Duncan Riley

He also doesn't know the difference between Sunni's and Shiite's, and he repeatedly said that Iran was training Al-Qaeda terrorists and sending them into Iraq, even after being corrected by Lieberman. His supposed strength, foreign policy, has turned out to be his weakness. - Jason Carreira

John McCain, the neoconservatives and the Israel lobby: a high percentage of McCain supporters on Friendfeed (there aren't very many overall) are motivated by strong feelings about Israel. It's quite an interesting social phenomenon. Most of them are on the record as supporting an American and/or Israeli war against Iran -- a policy which is strongly opposed by most Americans, the American military/intel establishment and every other nation in the world except Israel. - Sean McBride

Jason -- not only does Joseph Lieberman seem to be feeding McCain most of his lines on foreign policy, but McCain can't even read the lines without badly bungling them! :) Definitely one of the strangest presidential candidacies in my memory, and it is probably going to get much stranger by November. - Sean McBride

Obama is definitely grabbing the youth vote and he has the much smarter campaign because of it. I know I'm voting for Obama and I've been able to convince my mom to vote for him as well. Even if Obama doesn't live up to his promises (and it's starting to show that he may back away from some key issues), I would much rather have a literate president than John McCain, whom I have seen in person. His mistake about "the surge" is unforgivable and shows his true misunderstanding of his only real issue. - Brandon Titus

Sean: I just ate a mango. - "Oldengrey" Tannenbaum

Jay - I find it surprising that you don't pursue political discussions that you enter. What is the leading political issue which prompts your support for McCain over Obama? Is this a top secret topic? You entered this political discussion under your own free will. - Sean McBride

how did supporting America become a bad thing for the American voter? Is that what you think stupid is... supporting your country? I don't buy it. America has a right to support it's friends. John McCain always spoke his feelings honestly and intelligently. I was especially impressed with how he campaigned in Michigan. John told the autoworkers the sad truth and didn't lie to them like Obama would. Romney tried telling his home state that he could bring back the 50's and won the state. John=Integrity! - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

Noah: is Israel the most important issue for you and Jay Tannenbaum in the election contest between McCain and Obama? Which issue is more important than Israel for you and Jay? Both you and Tannenbaum have posted quite a few messages on Friendfeed expressing upset about disagreements by Americans with Likud, the neoconservatives, the Iraq War, an Iran War, etc. Clearly Israel is a very hot button for both of you. Most of John McCain's leading advisers are neoconservatives and agitators for an Iran War. - Sean McBride

Sean McBride you have the same pattern of interests in subject. I support America and its allies... I have bias towards people that don't want to kill me. I question your pattern of interest because you hate what keeps me alive McBride - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

Noah - I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Are you claiming that all Americans who oppose the Iraq War and an Iran War, and who support the Mideast peace process, are your enemies? That is the message that seems to be coming through your remarks. Generally those kinds of views are associated with extremists in Israel. - Sean McBride

who is America fighting Sean? last I checked it wasn't Israel who bombed NY... or is this one of those 911 conspiracy theories your boys cracked up with the tinfoil hats? - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

Iraq and Iran had nothing to do with 9/11. The Iraq War is costing Americans several trillion dollars. An Iran War would destroy the American economy and almost certainly cause a world depression. Israel is the only nation in the world which is agitating for an Iran War, against the best judgment of the American military and intelligence community. So where do you and Jay Tannenbaum stand on this issue -- with the American or the Israeli government? - Sean McBride

you think there weren't terrorists in Iraq and Iran? yawn... even Chomsky says there were WMDs at this point. Iraq wasn't supporting terrorists in Palestine? yawn... Iran isn't an enemy? you are a nut bar. Iran with a bomb is a danger to EVERYONE... stop blaming the Jews - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

The world is full of folks with crazy 9/11 conspiracy theories... usually they involve blaming "The Jews" somehow either overtly or covertly. No planes, some planes, holograms, thermite, CIA controlled planes, reptiles from space (I am not makign that one up)... whatever. It's all crazy. - Soulhuntre

Noah: so you side with the Israeli government against the American government and the Bush 43 administration on the issue of attacking Iran? And you conclude that everyone who disagrees with you is antisemitic and your religious enemy? And you are verbally abusing me and every other American who disagrees with you because of your strong emotional views about Israel? - Sean McBride

Look, neither of these guys is awesome. Obama thinks we have 57 states and thinks he is heading the banking committee in the senate (he isn't even on it). McCain makes errors, this is true - but Obama just flat out lies when it suits him. - Soulhuntre

nothing you say McBride will talk me into suicide. supporting America and it's allies keeps my family alive. your solutions are full of hatred. A country has a right and an obligation to be loyal to those that are friendly. you are blowing on a tangent because you know the real issue of this thread was spin. now it is evident that your bias is showing - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

Soulhuntre: There are hundreds of leading government figures, military and intelligence officials, engineers and scientists and other respectable professionals who question the 9/11 official story, and who don't remotely resemble your cartoon description of them. Carefully check out the names, affiliations and comments here: http://patriotsquestion911.com... How many of their questions can you answer in a satisfactory way? - Sean McBride

Noah -- Are you accusing the entire American government of being driven by antisemitic hatred because it opposes the Iran War which you and the Israeli government are pushing? What I notice in these exchanges is that you almost never respond to the points that are being addressed to you. You just sort of ramble on, with no real dialogue. - Sean McBride

McBride you just lost all credibility. where do you live? don't tell me what I saw. don't tell me what my friends saw. they weren't watching TV. all this conspiracy stuff you read on the internet is first hand experience for me or if you go back goes to the experience of my family. from the Holocaust to 1948... to 911. I don't need to read the textbooks because I'm from NYC and my family is in Israel. when an event happens on the news I dial a phone number to see if it is real or not. - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

Let's save some time Sean. Tell us your theory. Are you a hologram guy? An aliens guy? Do you just think "The Jews" did it? Maybe your one of those who think they built thermite into the towers decades ago. Give us your theory. - Soulhuntre

the American government does not support your crazy opinions McBride. this thread is over. I have responded to you as long as I can... but now you attack my credibility because I don't believe conspiracy theories? come now... - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

The thing is, cherry picking quotes, finding "golden lists" and misunderstanding physics is not evidence. You simply can't point to any actual evidence for any of these theories. - Soulhuntre

Soulhuntre -- I have no theories about 9/11 -- I am simply interested in seeing a new and thorough investigation that answers all the open questions about 9/11. That's the point of view of nearly all the 9/11 skeptics at http://patriotsquestion911.com... Did you even bother looking at the site and checking out the names, affiliations and comments? For instance, several high-ranking Reagan adminstration members are calling for a new 9/11 investigation, including the head of the Star Wars program. - Sean McBride

Let's do this... so as not to hijack lockergomes thread I'll just link to Herdwatching, and you drop all your links, and we'll be done. - http://is.gd/12pm - Soulhuntre

Noah -- the American government and Bush 43 administration clearly oppose an American and/or Israeli war against Iran. Or do you, Jay Tannenbaum and Soulhuntre know something that the rest of us don't? - Sean McBride

I, for one, welcome our Reptillian Alien overlords. - Soulhuntre via twhirl

Soulhuntre -- I have a better idea -- why don't you start a 9/11 thread here and see how well you can defend the official story against the questions that have been raised by hundreds of leading professionals in the U.S. and around the world. We could start with funding for the operation and the role of the Pakistani ISI -- are you familiar with that issue? - Sean McBride

Soulhuntre -- what do Reptilian Alien overlords have to do with Pakistani ISI financing of Mohammed Atta and the 9/11 hijackers? Please explain. - Sean McBride

Israel is not under American jurisdiction. Israel will act unilaterally and always has. so does Great Britain and France... America changed it's policy after 911 and if Iran becomes a threat it will change policy again. yes we are not at war with Iran yet. they just shoot missiles at the troops in Iraq and the soldiers are not allowed to do anything about it. America won't attack till the "Commander in Chief" says so. good night... McBride. you are why I won't vote for Obama - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

Thread created - calling all conspiracy folks - http://friendfeed.com/e/d78cf3... - Soulhuntre

Noah - there is no realistic way that Israel can attack Iran without American support, and the American government is strongly opposed to such an attack because it would severely damage American interests. You seem to be implying by your statements that the Bush 43 is antisemitic because it doesn't share your agenda on Israel. - Sean McBride

not at all. I didn't vote for Bush for that exact reason that I am not sure where Bush is coming from. I have been very impressed with Bush's loyalty to Israel,but I know the Baker element of the Bush family is not Israel friendly. Bush has been a pleasant surprise so far. McCain is different. he has always been a friend of my peeps. but you are incorrect. Israel can do as it pleases. It just so happens that America and Israel are great friends, but Israel is not America's serf and vice versa. - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

The job of American presidents is not to be loyal to Israel but to be loyal to the United States. Most Americans place loyalty to their own country far above loyalty to any other countries, as, understandably, do the citizens of all other nations. When Jonathan Pollard and Larry Franklin forgot this basic fact of life, they ended up in prison. America's relations with European, Arab and Muslim nations are at least as as important as its relations with Israel -- perhaps more important in some cases. Some pro-Israel activists seem to have psychological boundary problems on this issue. - Sean McBride

Noah -- there is no practical military way that Israel can attack Iran without American approval and support. Ask any Israeli military expert about the problems involved in such an attack. - Sean McBride

http://www.ariel-sharon-life-s... if I remember correctly with international condemnation (including US criticism). Israel attacked Iraq when it tried to build a nuclear power plant in 1981. today we thank Israel for its unilateral action. They did it without US support before and they will do it again. they already proved that they can, will and are not afraid. the fact is the US knows this. and they can't do a thing about it. not a good idea to fuck around with a country with it's back to the wall & has the defenses of a superpower. - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

The circumstances regarding Osirak are radically different from the current situation in Iran -- read some military papers on the subject, by Israelis and Americans. Can you find a single high-level Israeli military figure who believes that an Israeli attack on Iran is feasible against the opposition of the United States? Do you understand the logistical problems, not to mention the political problems? - Sean McBride

oh boy McCain is an embarrassment to our Elected Officials in government...wow! - Susan Beebe (Santa Claus)

Susan -- McCain's handlers and advisers are pulling their hair out over his public performances. He's a loose cannon. They can't educate his mind or control his mouth. - Sean McBride

Sean if Israel needs to bomb Iran, it does not need American permission! That is a fact! - Igor The Troll

But at the same time! I do not want Iran American war! I want all the 160k troops to go back home to America! Enough 160 usd barrel oil prices. - Igor The Troll

Igor -- it's got nothing to do with permission. It's got everything to do with the practical ability to complete the mission successfully, as a win, not a loss. - Sean McBride

I think Israel won the 7 days war without American help! Israel bombed Iraq without American help. We do not need America! But for some reason America needs us! - Igor The Troll

Sean what is lacking from your argument is the details. I also would like to know which high level Israeli or American figure I could get to talk to a freak who thinks 911 is conspiracy? I can't believe I am wasting my time with you anymore. Everyone knows Israel has the strategic advantage and can do anything it fucking wants without US approval. I doubt you would be so afraid if they didn't have the guns. Israel plays nice sometimes, but if given an existential threat she will press the button. - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

Sean America spent what more than half a century in the region. What did it accomplish? Arab people are our brothers. When I travel Muslim countries they do not hate Israelis but they hate Americans. You tell me? - Igor The Troll

you are such numbskulls that your analysis of McCain only precludes me to believe the opposite. Sean... I have proven you wrong... I believe you are trying to get me to say things that scare people, but only a fool would think that Israel didn't have a first class military defense system. John is the candidate that has come to the realization that Israel is America's ally and will do what is best for both countries. - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

No Noah I would like to see America get its nose out of the middle east! America made Sadam, khamenei, Kadafi! These are all American creations! America comes to Iraq to give freedom! What freedom and to whom? America needs to take care of America. There is a lot of injustice, poverty, crime, bad health care! But America only wants to be world's policeman. I do not like McCain, but he will do his job! Obama, what will he do? Promise everything deliver nothing. - Igor The Troll

Noah - everyone knows that 9/11 was a conspiracy -- the question is, precisely what kind of conspiracy? What are the details? We still don't know, and many high-level American government officials are determined to get to the bottom of the story. Not even the leaders of the 9/11 official commission are satisfied with results of their report. With regard to the rest: thank God many Israeli leaders are better informed about military affairs than you are. They are in no hurry to attack Iran, for a variety of logistical and political reasons. - Sean McBride

You have 160k soldiers in Iraq, what you just put them on a plane and bring them back home? LOL They will be on welfare and out of work when they come home. America brought them to Iraq! Now try to bring them back! - Igor The Troll

I love the fact that a 911 nut is deciding what is intelligent in this debate. this is like arguing with a "Creationist" who takess the bible in literal form. I can't argue with people who only exist in their own axiums. Where are you from Sean McBride? you have never answered this question. My community saw 911... it wasn't CNN. It was real for NY - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

@Igor: If you want to see America get its nose out of the middle east you're backing the wrong candidate. McCain is willing to be there 100 years and clearly would be pleased as punch to get in a scrap with Iran. - AJ Kohn

Noah - with regard to 9/11, see if you can get into a useful dialogue with some of the hundreds of respected professionals here http://patriotsquestion911.com... Check out their affiliations, credentials and comments. You might start with the issue of Pakistani ISI funding of Mohammed Atta and the hijackers or the 9/11 anthrax attacks -- quite fertile topics in 9/11 research. - Sean McBride

AJ how do you disengage from the middle east? You think Obama knows diplomacy? I know he knows how to denounce and how to kiss ass! - Igor The Troll

AJ America is still in Japan! 70 years latter! - Igor The Troll

You guys sent Bush to Iraq now you have to deal with it. You could have stopped the Iraq war, but you did not! War is serious business. If you carry a gun, damn make sure you ready to use it. - Igor The Troll

I doubt Obama if elected will bring the troops home! But he will not do a good job at having theme there. Bringing the troops home will not be geopolitically possible. - Igor The Troll

Sean, if you ask me the CIA did 9/11 Bush did 9/11 but can anyone prove it? No! Topic closed! Oh Osama worked for CIA! Probably still does! - Igor The Troll

Igor.. you are all over the place now. Osama did work for the CIA. so did Hussein and every other enemy our country had from the 20th century. I was friends with Amanda Chapel on facebook before she became enemy number 1. Sean I am still waiting for your answer to my question that I have asked repeatedly. you are not dialoging in good faith by avoiding the issue that your so called experts were not witnesses that half of NY were. where are you from Sean? ANSWER ME THAT QUESTION - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

Igor -- you occasionally think outside the box and surprise one -- that's a good thing. You aren't so easy to pigeonhole. OBL may well have been a Western intelligence asset -- a case can be made for that. I tend to doubt, however, that CIA had much to do with 9/11, for one main reason: CIA has been unenthusiastic about the policies and wars for which 9/11 has been used as a pretext. Where's the motive? That doesn't add up. If you really want to get a handle on these controversies, I recommend reading David Ray Griffin's books -- he's very sober and factual, not a conspiracy theorist. He's simply trying to put all the known facts in order. - Sean McBride

Sean, why you have to be surprised? I am not Dave Winer with a "Comcast" truck parked outside. I am not Robert Scoble Spamming iPhone or Seagate! I am for nothing else here but to share my life experiences and make a few friends. I guess am using Social Media for what it really meant to be! Ok I have my fun busting a few myths who maybe something or maybe not! But I do not chase cars, I bark at them occasionally for good measure! LMAO - Igor The Troll

Noah, wake up, America is not the land of the free and the country of the brave, it is just corrupt like any other regime, but it does in the name of democracy! Please learn how many wars and revolutions all over the world have been sponsored by USA! Stop pretending that America is a sacred virgin on a pedestal. She is not, neither is the State of Israel for that measure! We all have or ghosts! - Igor The Troll

I really do not care who made 9/11 happened know it, will not help us be better men! The Amanda Chapel on Face Book is not the same Amanda Chapel on Twitter! Anyway "she" is being detained temporarily being that she blew her cover for some anonymous Dude like me! ROFLMAO - Igor The Troll

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Didn't a generous benefactor deliver a keg to the Twitter HQ one day? That probably started the problems. - Ontario Emperor

damn typo, missing "about" between "talk" and "that" - Scott Beale

Oh, my, you're right. It's Oh-Beer-Thirty already... - Urban Thought Collective

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