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Loic Le Meur - Seesmic

Re: A Seesmic member has passed - Craig Manganello

September 27 at 1:01 am - seesmic.com - Link

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:( That's really sad. - Shawn Farner

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:( - Lin-ZAY

erf /: - Virtualgoodz

i read about him earlier. Along with guys like Marc Orchant whose Twiiter account is still live i often wonder what happens when they pass (at the moment an account is an account!). Would mabe be touching for social media sites to have something.Not sure what tho'. - weblivz via twhirl

Oh my...I had been wondering how his surgery went, as I hadn't heard anything. This is so sad, I hoped he would get better and was floored when I heard he had to go back to have surgery. RIP, Craig. - Anika Malone

Robert Scoble - Twitter

“@markzero RSS feeds aren't fast enough for the "Live Web." Twitter and FriendFeed move too fast. XMPP needed (which is a chat protocol).”

September 22 at 10:00 am - Link

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hi there! - Virtualgoodz

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Twitter or Friendfeed aren't "too fast" if you cut the fat and only follow the most interesting people and rooms. - ☂Marcos Marado

Marcos: I was arguing protocols. Your Tweets show up here in FriendFeed via XMPP, not RSS. Why? XMPP is a lot faster. - Robert Scoble

Wonder if one will eventually approach a way to basically chat using these services. GTalk is XMPP already, right? - Monia

Friendfeed and Twitter have really opened my eyes to this - I'm seeing stuff show up in Google Reader hours after I've already read them thanks to FF. - Daniel J. Pritchett

Robert, it is not that RSS is not fast enough, but it is the wrong approach for a "live web". XMPP gives us the pub/sub model so that you know the moment of publish. For RSS readers, they typically poll the RSS source at regular intervals. Look at FriendFeed, they poll RSS feeds every 30 minutes or so. - Rob Diana

Rob: exactly, but my Tweets usually show up here within a few seconds of posting on Twitter. 30 minutes is too slow for the live web. - Robert Scoble

Scoble I totally agree, 30 minutes is too slow for a live web. Just used FF as an example of "fast" RSS. Also, if you do not mind, can I call you Scoble instead of Robert? Damned confusing, seems like I am talking to myself sometimes. - Rob Diana

Rob, you can call me whatever you want. Problem with "Scoble" is that there are a few other people here who have that last name. :-) - Robert Scoble

Let's call him "Robble". - Daniel J. Pritchett

FF's SUP protocol will fix RSS latency for platforms that support it, like mine. - Bruce Lewis via fftogo

The "Live Web" has been silo-based because it's trivial to do (Twitter,MySpace,Facebook) and Robert Scoble's right about XMPP being the solution. Yammer is doing it best (technically) right now via Jack Moffitt's Strophe, Twitter has dropped the XMPP ball but will probably pick it up again, Identi.ca is running with XMPP and it's hard but the users LOVE it (when it works). The takeaway is that XMPP is hard/complex, Seesmic is advancing the technology, and the libraries are getting better from recent uptake. - Brian Hendrickson

I would love to see a "chat" protocol for commenting on anything - Blog, Twitter, Facebook etc... some sort of "conversation" framework. - Ron West

Identi.ca is built on just such an open "chat" protocol http://is.gd/2Zy0 -- it's 2 months old but has been implemented in several forms already, and Drupal is building it into their platform. It feeds traffic back into XMPP and definitely qualifies as "Live Web", the problem is getting the "biggies" to feed their statuses, comments into it. - Brian Hendrickson

Louis Gray - Twitter

“Q: Were there any good blog posts that covered the Blog World Expo panels? All those bloggers, and no "coverage"? Did I miss them? #bwe08”

September 22 at 10:09 am - Link

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The best coverage was live Tweets and conversations on FriendFeed. That's what http://search.twitter.com and FriendFeed's search is there for. But, yeah, it would be nice to be able to bundle all that learning up into something with a single URL. - Robert Scoble

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My question there, Robert, is that if you put hundreds of bloggers at an event with good discussion and potentially news, that there should be "recaps" or "highlights". Journalists do this all the time, reporting panels and speakers. It's what I did for Bret and Loic's panel the other week. Using only Twitter and FriendFeed are the easy way out. - Louis Gray

There are a few of those here: http://blogsearch.google.com/b... - Robert Scoble

what a good question and ironic answer. - jeneane sessum

Jeneane: is Twittering blogging? In my mind it is. - Robert Scoble

hello - Virtualgoodz

Robert, no twittering isn't blogging. it's ubiquitous IM. - jeneane sessum

jeneane: I disagree. Who wrote the rule book that said that a blog needed to be longer than 140 characters? :-) - Robert Scoble

And yes, Robert's link to Google Blog Search does find some good ones. - Louis Gray

@Robert, a tweet is not a blog post. It's a tweet. Louis' point was that for a blogging conference, the lack of blog posts (reflective, substantive, and I have more adjectives if you want them) covering the goings-on is noteworthy. - jeneane sessum

Jeneane: and exactly what is the difference other than one is limited to 140 characters? A blog is an individual voice of a person. My Tweets are my voice. - Robert Scoble

So then if anyone other than those who were there care about BWE, they can search Twitter and sort through idle chatter, meet-up organization, and weblebrity sitings, Jeneane. Otherwise, the information presented there is only for those cool enough to have been there. ;) - Cyndy

Robert - again: substance. If blogging is the same as twitter and friendfeed, then quit your blog and just use those formats. Consider yourself dared. Cyndy +1. - jeneane sessum

jeneane: I use the right tool for the job. A lot of times it's Twitter. Sometimes I have more to say, that's when my Wordpress-powered blog comes into play. Sometimes I want to post a picture to communicate with you, that's gonna be up on Flickr. Sometimes I want to do a video. etc etc. Personally I go to conferences nowadays to enjoy myself, not to be a reporter or a PR person for the conference. I don't get paid to go to conferences, when that starts maybe I'll start doing work at them. :-) - Robert Scoble

wasn't twittering originally called "microblogging"? I'm still struggling to know when the right tool is for the right job, but I use FF for most discussions ABOUT posts, twitter for microblogging casual stuff in under 140 chars, and my blog for anything that's longer than a few paragraphs (which I try to post at least once a day). - Justin Long

It's funny that we haven't talked about the real reason why this conference didn't get blogged about that much: every blogger knows that anytime you blog about blogging your traffic goes down by 10x. Unless you are problogger. So there's actually an anti-incentive to covering a conference about blogging! Interesting that no one posted that yet. - Robert Scoble

Robert, I don't find that to be true. Blogging about blogging trends can at times be as engaging as blogging about services. - Louis Gray

Actually I think it depends on audience. I've been writing in part about using blogging as a tool for missionaries trying to explain their purpose and vision, and I've seen my traffic go up steadily over the past week. But if your readers ARE existing bloggers, then traffic would probably go down? unless you have something new and powerful to say. - Justin Long

Louis: well, you are sort of in the same bucket as problogger. Among other circles they know they are losing their audience when they do that. Imagine you have a blog on, say, Alzheimers. Why would you write about a blogging conference to your audience? (I met a lot of people who blog on topics like alzheimers or quilting there). - Robert Scoble

Would be nice to here a summary of trends, or thoughts on how things have changed or where they are going (from those "creating" the industry)...ACEdge - Alan Edgett

I agree the live tweets were valuable. I probably should write up my insights, but I probably fear they'd seem trite once I put 'em down. - Paul Rodriguez

Alan: trends. Video up. Blogging steady. Microblogging big up. Aggregators up. Monetization mixed. Mobile video: new on scene, expected to be way up. :-) - Robert Scoble

Robert, you think the reason that there weren't more posts about BWE from bloggers is that bloggers didn't want to lose traffic? ("It's funny that we haven't talked about the real reason why this conference didn't get blogged about that much: every blogger knows that anytime you blog about blogging your traffic goes down by 10x.") I doubt that's the case. Your point about people wanting to enjoy conferences instead of blogging them these days is well taken. But you sound defensive. - jeneane sessum

Alan: more trends. Watch networks of bloggers. Way up. Oh, and watch them to become media companies and move away from blogs. - Robert Scoble

jeneane: I don't have a bet on this table. So, I don't really care and if I'm defensive it's cause the info is already out there and those who complain about it are in a position to gather the info together and bundle it and add some value. The world is changing and conferences won't be blogged all the time. I know I hate writing about conferences or covering them. Other people make the money and I get less traffic thanks to competing with others for the same stories. - Robert Scoble

For instance, Louis was there. Where's his "coverage?" I only attended one or two things, but hung out with my friends most of the time (or my wife). I followed a lot on Twitter, though, and didn't see any real news that made me say "oh, I have to write about that." The few things I saw I liked on FF so my readers would see them. - Robert Scoble

maybe all the good bloggers were on the panels ;) - Owen via twhirl

maybe all the good bloggers stayed home. ;) - Cyndy

Robert: I'm now siding with you on Micro-blogging = blogging. Thanks for the summary, hugely helpful for a Corporate soc med guy like me to hear your take on trends (even in 140 bits)! - Alan Edgett

Maybe all the good bloggers ate roast beef, or maybe they had none, or maybe they went wee wee wee all the way home. - Jason Carreira

I think conferences like these are mostly useful in the way that they connect different bloggers in real world so that they can share experiences and even more like get feeling of community. Also, could be great way to get new friends and learn about different things. As for topics of blogging, many people write about wide range of topics but still have some specific things that they mostly cover. It's about what you and your readers are mostly interested and that depends on what type of blog writer does. - Daniel Schildt

And does it really matter if conference had or did not had some more of really popular megastars of blogging? Events like this don't always have to be hyper. The most important thing is people, whoever they happen to be. Everyone learns something when talking to different people interested of writing about different subjects even if there wouldn't have been any of the panels. - Daniel Schildt

Robert, I wrote a blog post about blogging a little while ago for LouisGray.com and it ended up on the front page of Techmeme, so I disagree as well that blogging about blogging reduces traffic. It's all about learning to write good posts - you can really write about anything with good content. - Jesse Stay

Robert, the last few posts I've put on the site have mentioned findings from the panels I attended or participated in, and referenced them. But no, I didn't recap the panels myself, so partially guilty as charged. - Louis Gray

I've got notes from Louis's panel I'll be posting tonight, btw - Jesse Stay via twhirl

I blogged about on one ourI blogged about on one our daily vibe today. The panel with Tim Ferris was blogged by daily vibe today. The panel with Tim Ferris was blogged by Rohit Bhargava. http://blog.vibemetrix.com/200... - VibeMetrix via twhirl

yuck. I don't know what Twirl just did, sorry about that :/ - VibeMetrix via twhirl

Virtualgoodz

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July 26 at 3:04 pm - test.com - Link

it's a test - Virtualgoodz

Fred Grott

“Mahalo.com Being bought by MS??”

July 7 at 2:00 pm - Link

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What? No..... - Pat Hawks

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are you sure?? - Fred Grott

MS will not get Yahoo and they need some search winner, why not Mahalo.com? - Fred Grott

Heard something similar, but it was TimeWarner - Ken Sheppardson

Microsoft trying to buy Mahalo would make sense but, I doubt it's true. I haven't heard anything close to that. - Candace Holly

lets see does Jason have a recent to valley trip planned? - Fred Grott

Wait a second, Microsoft just bought Powerset. Why would they go and buy yet another search engine when they just acquired one? - Candace Holly

link to source? - Matthew Wayne Selznick

@CandaceHolly because microsoft is confused over what they are? at least that is what the internet would have you believe :D - The Geek Media

Will it be MSN Mahalo or Windows Live Mahalo? :) - Morton Fox

I think this might have contributed to the rumors: http://scobleizer.com/2008/06/... - Robert Scoble

yeh right!!! - Jeremy

request for source generates sound of crickets chirping - Matthew Wayne Selznick

@Matthew - A google shows no sources at all. I think it was more an open ended question backed by a reason that we're not aware of yet. - Candace Holly

As If !!!! But microsoft is on a spending spree when it comes to search engines, remember? And there was that indicator from Scobles interview linked above, remember? - Roberto Bonini

weird how jason isn't in on this discussion! - Gavin

But notice that Robert Scoble is - Fred Grott

I just Twittered Jason, but I don't expect him to comment. Most CEOs won't comment on rumors unless they are true, and even then, they usually comment on their own schedules, not someone else's. - Robert Scoble

That said, if Microsoft bought Mahalo and Powerset that'd be the first signs of a search strategy inside Microsoft in years. It'd be smart to do. - Robert Scoble

Where is jason when you need him - Akshay Dodeja

This simple FF question is going to snowball into a blogging rumor mill within 12 hours. I'll bet money on it. - Candace Holly

I heard it was Pfizer or Nabisco - MG Siegler

Hum, I guest Stevie is anxious to buy anything and everything that is associated with the word "search" - Shane

Maybe someone should set up a Rumor Mill room on FriendFeed. - Mike Doeff

It's on the Internet so it must be true. - Charles Barthold

Powerset is shown to work great on factual, structured data. Why wouldn't Mahalo with its human editors and coordination + Powerset be an excellent combination? - Mattie

I hope it's true, Jason congrats if it is! - E.B.

guys be serious a minute, if MS want to buy technology (cuill?) not grotto-workers - Virtualgoodz

it would make sense and would be inline with this: http://www.techcrunchit.com/20... - Nik Cubrilovic

i don't know any reporter who would run this as a post, unless they're shooting it down as an example of an unfounded rumor. we'll see who writes a post entitled something like "Rumor: Is MS buying Mahalo?" personally, i've run stories that i've doubted, but i've always had more to go on than this, and i very heavily qualify myself. if anyone here wants to write a rumor-mill post on this, be my guest -- but you'll experience the backlash that causes reporters to not run such unfounded stories. geez. - Eric Eldon

@ Mike Doeff: Done- http://friendfeed.com/rooms/ru... . @Robert Scoble - think wider: Live Search + Yahoo + Powerset + Mahalo = very compelling search offering. - Roberto Bonini

Grotto-workers? - Lon Harris via twhirl

Who says a reporter would cover it? I said bloggers. Big difference considering the majority of bloggers aren't journalists. As far as this rumor..first, we've had zero source to go on. Second, not one word from the person who would know for sure. I chock it up to a rumor but..I think this rumor is about to get fun. - Candace Holly

@Candace - A rumor that makes sense!!! - Roberto Bonini

I didn't see that coming. - Parvez Halim

@Roberto - a rumor that makes sense is still a rumor. Though this would be a great experiment. How much of a buzz could a rumor on friend feed start? Hmmm... - Candace Holly

ok sure, this is a fun conversation. i can think of some other ones, too, like this http://digg.com/comedy/GOOGLE_... - Eric Eldon

If Mahalo is snapped up by Microsoft for some undisclosed fee, it will be a clear signal that Microsoft is on the warpath. Startups everywhere, beware!!! - Roberto Bonini

At least GOOG would have access to the Vatican Library. That'd go a long way towards their goal of organising the worlds information. - Jason Shultz via twhirl

Seems a bit crazy... - Alex Barredo

@ Alex: Ain't nothing too crazy to be true. - Roberto Bonini

@Jason Shultz. At least I'd be able to do Google searches to learn what's really inside of the Vatican Library, instead of relying on Dan Brown novels. - Eric Eldon

he was on Leo's TWiT last night.... - tanya

seems like it would be a smart move by MS, hedging bets on the future of search by investing in a variety of areas, which is more than google has done recently - craig

No comment. - Jason Calacanis

Three more Tesla's for Calacanis... lol - John Denver

no comment means yes. If there were no discussions then calacanis wouldve just said no. Gotcha Jason:) - Grant

Jason's No Comment comment after Scoble's point about CEOs not commenting on rumors that are true pretty much sums it up for me. Not that I'm writing, it just became obvious to me. :) - Aaron Brazell

would be cool for Mahalo. Seems like it requires too much editorial work to make sense for Microsoft though. A publisher makes more sense imo - Bjorn Tipling

or "no comment" means come visit Mahalo... driving traffic - Adam Hansen

very curious indeed. i'll see if i can get the inside scoop.... - revrev

I can't believe there's this much discussion on this without any comment from anybody. Incredible. - Charlie Anzman

I can't believe people still think Mahalo is a search engine. Jeez, it's a wiki/directory with a search feature. Edit: and lately, it's been more of a current news/blog than anything else. - Paul Short

life is grand... - fijidaddy

The other night I actually was pondering this very acquisition idea. Though I've never really used Mahalo for anything, I enjoy Calacanis and Mahalo Daily. Is it search, wiki or news? - THX152

Jason Calacanis loves Mahalo and he's doing better than Yang is seems, at least morally speaking. Why would he sell to MS? - Michelle McCormack

and the train has left the station... the comments, rumors are flying at "friendfeed" speed. - Nice Fish Films

=D - sean percival

Or... they are playing all of you. - Aaron Brazell

THIS TIME Jason is ALSO going to take the money. - Rob Sterling

/me envisions Mahalo Live! lulz - rob friedman

Unlike. Fake rumor. See >>> http://www.parislemon.com/2008... - Mike Reynolds

Robert Scoble - Twitter

“everyone I Qik'd today did not believe it was live. Oh, and wait until I show off Qik running on iPhone.”

June 12 at 6:40 pm - Link

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I'm excited to try Qik on my iPhone, too. - Liana Lehua

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Does it require a jailbreak or will it be on the iTunes App store? - Bwana

it requires jailbreaking for now. - Robert Scoble

I love Qik, I just can't figure out how it's going to make money. - Dino

me neither - Virtualgoodz

I can see it monetizing its product in much the same way other video services are monetizing their products: either interstitial advertising or overlay advertising. - Mark Trapp

Cannot wait for Qik live on iPhone! Been waiting for a while. Didn't know if it would show up or not without a native Apple-made video function. - Andrew Dobrow

if i could just get invited to qik i would love it, looks awesome! btw, will they have a native app for iphone software 2.0 or do we *have* to jailbreak? - Ivan Stegic

I don't have an iPhone... too luxurious for the 3rd world. - directeur

Not worth jailbreaking my iPhone for... Maybe when they have an SDK app - Bwana

Is the Nokia camera better than the iPhone? - Aaron Myers

That just might be the tipping point for me if I can run Qik and Flixwagon on an iPhone. I've already been promised one for Father' Day! - Larry Kless

No - hiuihi

The Nokia's camera is way better than the iPhone. - Robert Scoble

It seems that Apple chose stability and battery life over many possible hardware upgrades. A 2 MP camera is far from perfect but it's not a dealbreaker for me. New iPhone here I come. - Out Wrong

finally! neeeeeed qik for iphone!!! - Dieter Schwarz

I hope they will release their iphone app to general public very soon! - Leon Ho

this will be awesome, at last a good reason to join Qiiiiik! ^^ - Dan H. Racek

i want to see your qikroll...and please,please don't have it be repeated rick astley videos... - George Lee via twhirl

Huh? Though it didin't do video ( err, at least the software doesn't)? - Roberto Bonini

Yeah, is it simply a software/firmware solution to turn a still digital camera into a video camera? Have I got that right? - Rick Wolff

Its logical to assume so if its only avaliable as a hack. If Qik can SDK their app, thats the last of my hassles with the iPhone 3G gone. - Roberto Bonini

flixwagon are doing live iphone streaming too - http://is.gd/vUX. - Robert O'Callaghan

Needs a jailbreak. So not any better than Qik - Roberto Bonini