“A-list blogger told me off about FriendFeed last night. Said that FF isn't a good business strategy for bloggers who want to get paid for their work. I told him that attitude is exactly why I am spending so much time there. ”
June 12 at 9:31 am
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gets to why bloggers are whining about commenting behaviors moving off of their blogs and onto FF. - Robert Scoble
"Adapt or become irrelevant" should be the mantra of everyone in technology-based fields. Progress waits for no man. - Mark Trapp
Pinned to Jack Kerouac's wall to inspire his writing: "Art is the highest task and the proper metaphysical activity of this life."-Nietzsche - Thomas Hawk
Who cares where comments are made as long as they are made. - Steve Hall
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What was the A-lister's favorite community site? Twitter or Facebook? - Phil Glockner
I'm being a little spammy here, but I posted some thoughts about that before: Ten FriendFeed Visitors Beats 1,000 StumbleUpons Any Day http://tinyurl.com/455lol - Hutch Carpenter
One of two things can happen. They'll get more traffic or they'll turn off their RSS feed. Seems like an easy choice to me. - Delete Me
I find myself as A FF user visting more links and seeing more blog pages than I ever did before. What about it isn't a "good business strategy" according to this nameless A-lister? Sounds like he/she isn't all that perceptive. - Brian Sullivan
Steve: if you are being paid for page views it matters a lot. - Robert Scoble
Do we get to play guess the A-lister? - Cyndy
Sorry but I have to disagree. If I posted some content on my blog, I'd like the discussion about it to be focused on that website. FF commentary feels like a hidden backchannel sometimes - Daniel Spisak
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I realized this on day 0. Removing conversation from my blog = Less adsense. We went through the same thing when RSS hit.. .now we have ads in RSS. - Bwana
You know what might help is if FriendFeed did a traceback (or trackback) to the blog and it referenced all the comments. - Delete Me
@Brian - I agree on reading more blogs via FriendFeed than I would have normally. - Hutch Carpenter
Scott, Wordpress has a plugin that does that, and there is development of a similar plugin/module for Drupal and Blogger. - Mark Trapp
Fantastic Robert! - Parth Awasthi
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One of these days we'll have a viable micro-payment system and when we comment or click "Like" anywhere on the tubez we'll also be paying $0.002 to the originator. - Tad, TV's Patrick Duffy
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Pageviews shouldn't be a concern if you're producing good content -- especially if you're an A-list blogger. If you're NOT producing good content as an A-list then you're just trying to live off your "fame". It's like crappy music artists who keep putting out crappy music and people still love it. - Shey
hmmm... ads on FF next? - Ron Emrick
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Scott brings up a good point. If they have RSS, they already lost "pageviews" but subscriber counts are supposedly important. Why is it that the conversation on FriendFeed would not add to the quality of their blog? They would never turn off their RSS feed, so I think this seems a little hypocritical. - Rob Diana
Didn't Dave Winer say that he thought "professional blogger" was an oxymoron (or words to that effect). Maybe that reality is just coming home to roost? - Brian Sullivan
I have always found it interesting when people rail against progress because it hurts their business model, why not simply adapt your model? - Karen Swim
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Mark, yes but if FriendFeed did tracebacks then it wouldn't be necessary to wait for plugins. Plus it would push more traffic to FriendFeed when people follow them from blogs. Most blogging platforms have traceback functionality. - Delete Me
@scoble: Its tottaly bugging me that my comments are on friendfeed! Its my ego at play for sure. Actually did blog post today about it: http://britneymason.com/?p=139 But that being said, im getting more feedback then ever..so its a give and take I guess - Britney Mason
Couldn't care less - not making money off my blog, and I'm sure I have more people reading my blog DUE to FF than in spite of it... - Jeremy Toeman
Tad, check out tipjoy.com - Delete Me
FriendFeed is surely much better for bloggers that feed readers are. It makes users more likely to click links (partially because full feed content isn't included) and discover new blogs. And seeing an interesting discussion on FF makes me even more likely to click through to the article. How is that bad? - Tony Ruscoe
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So many A-list bloggers are long overdue for an adjustment - the hubris is astonishing. Ballmer-esque, really. - Noah Carter
"Hubris Ballmer-esque" -- great phrase -- can I use it? - Brian Sullivan
When I read a blog, I don't waste any brain cells worrying how the author is getting compensated for the article posted. He (or she) should've figured that strategy out before I got there. If the content isn't compelling me to view the page, then there's another topic for the author to contemplate. - William Beem
Scott, that's cool, but I'm not interested until it's ubiquitous and much less than $0.10. I want it to be so inexpensive I can "tip" folks all day long and not hurt my finances. If millions of us do that all day some folks will be making serious cash. - Tad, TV's Patrick Duffy
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I would say it is exactly the reverse of his statement. Shall we extract him (her) from the A-list ? :) - Charlie Anzman
It will always be about the conversation. Have an informed opinion; be different; work hard; contribute. If I find someone out there I like, I will seek to grab as much information about him/her as possible. Blogging will never die because (if done well) it is the most introspective and personal medium: two areas that will become increasingly important as we get deeper into Web 2.0, 3.0 and beyond. - Stagekid
That said, check out my blog :) http://www.stagekid.com (a joke, people... well not really) - Stagekid
While bloggers get less pageviews due to comments moving away to aggregators, they gain much wider exposure which leads to more pageviews. Bottom line, the total number of pageviews stays the same or even increases with the added value of having more unique views, which has more value. - Amit Morson
@Brian please do. - Noah Carter
Just speaking for little old me, since I've gone almost exclusively FF, I have had an increase in traffic and no effect on adsense. I don't know what the fear is. - Jason Kaneshiro
I was wondering, does anyone know if there's a way to make the comments from FriendFeed automatically also show up in the relevant blog? Similar to how we can check a box to duplicate a post on Twitter? Would that maybe solve the problem? If it's possible to do, that is. - Kamilah Gill
My opinions here have been well documented. Over time, this will get easier and, eventually, solved. - Louis Gray
Kamilah, I expect to see that happening eventually with Disqus. I know they are working on it - implement disqus on your blog and it will come. - Jesse Stay
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being pragmatic, but page views is a dying business model within blogging. The blog is about personal branding and then you sell yourself as a service thereafter. Words and thoughts are commodities. - morten saxnaes
getting paid for page views is such narrow, and old, thinking ... same old paradigm in new cheap clothes - Gregory Lent
there's revenue associated with blogging??? :) - anna
Tad, I'm really active on Tipjoy, and it doesn't cost too much. You can tune it to $0.05, which is really cheap. You can tip 100 times daily for less than a big Starbucks coffee. For just $1 per day, you too can support this starving internet :D - Ivan Kirigin
FF is more for combining the work of others into a feed for yourself -- and combining all of your work into a single feed for others to consume. Has nothing to do with blogging imo. - xero
@Ivan - You better be active on TipJoy! @Tad I tuned TipJoy to $0.05 and use it when I come across someone with the buttons that writes something I like. I probably should use the bookmarklet to help spread the word, but I'm getting too many of those things. Hopefully now that TipJoy is on friendfeed we'll see a increase in usage - David Knight
@David the problem with TipJoy is you are limited to sending the money to charity or getting Amazon gift cards - sorry but that doesn't work for folks that just might want to use it as an alternative monitization method or donations - Steven Hodson
@Steven the cashing out issue is one that would be faced by any startup in our position - thanks to the regulatory framework around money transfer agents. It will be solved really soon, and we're trying to be very open about it. Also, we do let non-profits & platforms cash out. - Ivan Kirigin
If I had to document all the ways Friendfeed has be AWESOME for me, I'd have to write a book ... and it's barely out of the gate. Spoke with 3 people on the phone today that said they couldn't get enough - Charlie Anzman
Since I started using FF I actually see more comments on my blog and absolutely no impact on my (meager) advertising take. - Frederic
Amen, keep hittin' em hard out there. - Aaron Myers
I like FF, too. It's a great way to meet people, and it is driving traffic back to my blog. - Bill Sodeman
Many readers like FF. Blogger vs. Reader = Readers win. Always. (If not, they go somewhere else) - Pat Hawks
@Jesse Thanks, I'll have to look into Disqus. I've seen the name around but I know nothing about it. - Kamilah Gill








